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  • Question about DHEA in Cohesion

    I am having trouble figuring out if DHEA is still being put into Cohesion or not. From what I gathered some people complained that DHEA may be killing the fallout effect of A1 and so a heavier version of Cohesion was made a custom mix, now known as Crush XS. However what I can't figure out is if DHEA is still found in Cohesion XS? The PXS website pre2014 shows Cohesion as being Dienone + eNONE + DHEA. Now the website shows Dienone + eNONE + aNONE. Was DHEA replaced with aNONE or is aNONE simply a 4th pheromone added with DHEA? Thanks XSteveO for the help!

    • knowledgeispower
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      knowledgeispower commented
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      Thank you for the response Noel! Nice to meet you!

      I've been a fan of SteveO since the days of Androtics Direct since 2006. I followed his posts back then and I made my own ICM thanks to his publicly given recipes when AD stopped producing MX 301/302. His dedication is why I have become a loyal customer of his.

      Unfortunately this is not the spirit that XSteveO began PXS with. XSteveO has several times stated how he would rather have the possibility that his blends are stolen by some bad apples than to hinder public research and transparency. In fact back in the days on pherotruth he did just that and provided a lot of details. I'm not asking for a formula. Obviously every company needs trade secrets and I wholeheartedly agree. I want XSteveO and you and the staff to protect his product lines so you can continue being in the business of providing us with quality products! But I also think its nearly impossible to replicate a blend just by knowing the concentration of eNONE (not to mention the blending process). I would argue eNONE is the most crucial pheromone to be transparent about because eNONE sensitivity is very real; that is why I belive both Taboo and Evolve have been advertised with their levels of eNONE.

      That being said, sure let's say this is proprietary. I can understand that begrudgingly but it is what it is. What about my question about cohesion? DHEA has been present in Cohesion from the days of pherotruth. XSteveO himself actually only created Crush at the request of a member who believed DHEA destroys the fallout effect of a1. The reason I am asking if its still present is because the prior PXS website stated DHEA in the ingredients list, but now it no longer does so. So has it been removed? DHEA is one of those molecules that I need to prevent A1 depression, and I have been getting some fatigue with Cohesion so I am concerned this molecule has been removed and no one was told?

      Lastly my question about SOB is for the same reason. I LOVE cops and my sample of SOB definitely has them. However I recently ordered a 30 ml bottle of SOB and the cover scent (pepper & nutmeg) is so strong I cannot smell the cops at all. Then I noticed that while the older PXS website listed cops for SOB, the newer one does not. This concerns me because maybe the samples are an older batch that do have cops but the 30 ml bottle I got does not (new recipe?)

      I'm not asking for formulas or trade secrets. Just clarifying discrepancies within your own website and prior knowledge that XSteveO publicly gave out on PheroTruth and is still available for people to read. Thank you for your time.

    • NoelO
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      NoelO commented
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      Ha, everything evolves for sure, from blends to site content. We don't give out specifics, and that's just the way that blend diffuses. I'll leave Idle to clear up some of the basics for you. He will be responding shortly. Beyond that it will have to remain part of the mystique of XS.

    • idle
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      idle commented
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      knowledgeispower

      1.Yes it is there
      2.Yes again
      3. ... Sorry but as you said "(if this is proprietary I can understand)" ... it kinda is ...
      But in the same time not really too... even if people knew the full blend compounds then it comes to sources(manufacturer of the molecules) what purity they are (this will throw away the blend in totally different direction) ... and in the end blending methods...
      And last but not least Fixation and silage enhancers (as we call it Diffusion Tech)
      https://discoverxs.com/forum/pheromo...2529#post42529
      Originally posted by idle View Post
      Diffusion Tech is more than just a simple one way solution thing

      For example A good Designers cologne company counts on diffusion and fixation mainly. Scents are good but mainly because of their carrier base and fixation
      Both go hand by hand.
      And since we are not selling colognes .. Steve had to tweak it a little bit so that the diffusion rate is right and in the same time we get a great silage of at least a few meters (in normal conditions / no winds / or airflow around you that will direct the evaporation in another direction), and in the same time it last over the time we are saying (fixating the blend on your skin same way colognes are made)
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