Coffee shop mix

[Muestereate]

You could just put the people on your blocklist. I'm more alpha than you hell.

[theLaw]

"Sitting around eating lunch and doing work" Again, making my point.

[theLaw]

No offense, but you did just type out "OMG". I think they call that a tell.

[theLaw]

Your original question was about what mones to wear while reading a book at a coffee shop. In your last two comments you actually made my point.

[MRSNAKE]

For the first time I want to delete a post i started here, it was a very simple hypothetical scenario which we could of appreciate, but got turned into i am more alpha than you are cause your a beta male and you reading A book anywhere (god forbid) makes you a beta. OMG

[MRSNAKE]

A coffee shop is a social environment, as is a bar, but not in the same way.

In a coffee shop, you generally socialize with familiars. In a bar, you socialize with everyone.

Those individuals who go to a coffee shop "for themselves" are not social individuals, but instead are afraid to be social. So the coffee shop provides a well-built illusion to support their own self-deception. Hanging out at an establishment with limited seating because you need a novel location is just narcissism.

Business meetings are nearly all done over lunch/dinner, as they are meetings for a reason, but the coffee shop provides a place for shorter meetings for those lacking resources, which works well as long as everyone respects other's time.

In terms of a pickup location, it would work for numbers at best. But I suspect this thread was really about getting girls to initiate using a particular mix while sitting near them at a coffee shop, so it's probably irrelevant.

Social doesn't just mean always talking to people, it can just mean a bunch of people sitting around each other eating lunch or doing work. Real alphas do what they want when they feel like it, that's why I go on my computer in a coffee shop and don't care what you say.

[MRSNAKE]

Now on the other hand if i was actually planning a night out on the town, then ya i would agree with you, reading a book at a bar is not to alpha , but who really cares at the end of the day?

[MRSNAKE]

I think you missed the meaning of daily routine , when i am doing my work which i prefer to not do it at home, I don't mind a window to meeting someone new.

[theLaw]

Now you're descending into insults because you didn't like what I said.

"I wasn't insulting you. I was stating what I believe to be facts."

That is true. That's why I clarified.

Glad we agree.

Please clarify what isn't about you or me, because I think we are diverging in what we are talking about. And what pattern do you see?

If we simply used our own personal experiences, and we were both assertive males, then our advice for pheromone mixes would be useless to most men here (and most men for that matter). I use Alpha/Beta binary description much like hookups vs dating for behaviour. It's oversimplified, but also a very useful tool to point out obvious flaws in a guy's approach to using pheromones. Too many guys like to hide in this "gray area" using it to obscure their own cowardice, so forcing them to make a choice sheds light on their real issues.

Relative to other options, a coffee shop is not a great place to meet women, given the social-context. This is where everyone starts to add qualifiers, hence my Alpha/Beta comments and my exclusion of our personal experiences.

Cheers!

[Catlord17]

Not sure what that word-salad is supposed to mean exactly. I wrote the post. You criticized my words. Not sure how you approach your own posts, but I take full responsibility for mine.

Now you're descending into insults because you didn't like what I said.

I can only respond to what you write, not what you think.

That is true. That's why I clarified.

Like I said, it's not about you or me, but you seem to disagree. Starting to see a pattern here.

Please clarify what isn't about you or me, because I think we are diverging in what we are talking about. And what pattern do you see?

[theLaw]

So just turn your radio on or go to a location without limited seating. (not you specifically)

[theLaw]

I wasn't critiquing you. I was stating what I believe to be facts.

Not sure what that word-salad is supposed to mean exactly. I wrote the post. You criticized my words. Not sure how you approach your own posts, but I take full responsibility for mine.


And the last statement I made was hardly black and white. Whether you are referring to "Going to a coffee shop to socialize just means you prefer that atmosphere in which to socialize, and the people who also like it, are the people you want to socialize with."

Yes. That one.

I did not qualify the first one by saying "in most cases", which I probably should have, as I suspect this is what you're referring to with stating it was black and white. That was simply an oversight, as that is what I was thinking when I wrote it. Not black and white.

I can only respond to what you write, not what you think.

I am happy to disagree. I'm also not talking about exceptions. I'm talking about what has been the norm in my experiences with coffee shops. It may simply be that we are experiencing two wildly different coffee shop cultures as a result of locality.

Like I said, it's not about you or me, but you seem to disagree. Starting to see a pattern here.

Cheers!

[Muestereate]

So you're sitting in a coffee shop reading your book, and you see a few hot girls walk in a sit close to you. In this moment you're wishing you had some mones on. What would they be and what kind of mixes would you be using?

This is all the Topic was about lol. It had nothing to do with where myself or others go to find alpha men. lol

[Primross]

We were not talking about who is or who isn't

It was a discussion where you are most likely to find alpha folk

[Muestereate]

Your avatar has hipster written all over it

[Bosrel]

[Catlord17]

So you're sitting in a coffee shop reading your book, and you see a few hot girls walk in a sit close to you. In this moment you're wishing you had some mones on. What would they be and what kind of mixes would you be using?

If I wanted to have a conversation, I'd be using Taboo. If I wanted to have sex with her, probably Superman III or Evolve.

[Catlord17]

Well, figuring out the right pheromone apparently requires us to figure out how alpha we are. Actually, my goals at coffee shops are very beta. I like intelligent conversation and I don't have a problem with excursions into emotional or spiritual conversations either. When I used to get laid a lot I think I was just concerned with anatomical discussions. I had to learn tantric sex to have a relationship with a lesbian friend that had PTSD when she saw a penis. I guess I enjoy mindfucking as much as regular sex now.

I disagree with you that intelligent conversation is "beta". Conversation and socializing really doesn't have much to do with "alpha" or "beta" or "sigma" or whatever else. That all has to do with socio-sexual status, and conversation is just conversation. And a man who doesn't have the insecurities that would otherwise prevent him from admitting he has emotions, and experiencing or expressing them, isn't being "beta" unless he's looking to follow someone else because he's too afraid to lead himself. The strongest of men and the weakest both allow themselves to cry, for example, but they do so for very different reasons.

[Catlord17]

Its not insecurities its nature. Alphas don't want to do those things they would rather do something else. If I was in a coffee shop I wouldn't feel insecure I just don't have the desire to do so. It's got nothing to do with me not wanting to sit there and look like a stupid poser hipster I don't care what other people think.

You know, I have lived 45 years on this planet and I have never seen a coffee shop "in nature". So I'm pretty sure that it's not "nature", it's your point of view, and that your point of view is based on a fear of what someone might think of you if they saw you in a coffee shop, because you have either decided or been told that it's "not alpha".

I never said you had to go in a coffee shop and "look like a stupid poser hipster". If you're not a hipster, why would you look like one? No matter what you choose to look like, a coffee shop is a coffee shop, and you can go there to get coffee or work on your laptop because they happen to have wifi, or look to socialize or whatever else, whether or not you're alpha. Being alpha doesn't even enter into the picture. What I'm saying is, if you're genuinely an alpha, you can also do this without caring what anyone else thinks of you.

For example, I can go to Starbucks and pull out my laptop and work from there and have lunch there and test pheromones there and flirt and pick up chicks there, and I couldn't give a shit how alpha you think I am or am not as a result. For me, someone's opinion of how "alpha" a man is because he went to Starbucks is just ludicrous, and has nothing to do with why I do or do not go to Starbucks.

I'll tell you, I have no interest in Starbucks because they are a bullshit hipster brand with poor quality and their demographic is primarily people who aren't smart enough to pay a sane price for coffee, or who think being at Starbucks makes them somehow "cool" or "with it". The same company owns almost all of their "competitors", and their actual coffee is crap. I don't have time to be bothered learning how to order their ridiculous drinks, because I have work to do and I don't need to impress anyone by being seen at Starbucks.

But have I gone there? Sure. I have gone there to work on my business, to test pheromone mixes and to flirt. That has nothing to do with how "alpha" I am. Do I go there often? No, I average once every other year, because I don't care to support what I consider an overpriced a bullshit brand that only exists because someone thinks it's cool to be seen there, and it's tactics. That, and I don't drink coffee, and I don't spend $4+ on a damned coffee drink, either. It's a waste of money, and I'm not stupid.

And the guys I know who are really alpha don't go there either, for much the same reason: common sense dictates otherwise based on price, quality and the hipster cool/ego thing.

Being worried about "man cred" being damaged by going there, means that at some level, you are afraid you aren't man enough. "Real men" don't need anyone else's approval to do what they want and/or choose to do, regardless of what they do or why they do it. They give themselves whatever approval and security they need regarding their masculinity, and don't worry what others think as a consequence.

[Muestereate]

Well, figuring out the right pheromone apparently requires us to figure out how alpha we are. Actually, my goals at coffee shops are very beta. I like intelligent conversation and I don't have a problem with excursions into emotional or spiritual conversations either. When I used to get laid a lot I think I was just concerned with anatomical discussions. I had to learn tantric sex to have a relationship with a lesbian friend that had PTSD when she saw a penis. I guess I enjoy mindfucking as much as regular sex now.