Well I think natural is fine, Its that damn organic trademark that's expensive
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Originally posted by Muestereate View PostWell I think natural is fine, Its that damn organic trademark that's expensive
?????? It's a racket. Poison everything and then sell what's healthful at exorbitant prices...You're never too old to learn NuTrix ^_~
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Originally posted by Muestereate View PostWell I think natural is fine, Its that damn organic trademark that's expensive
Organic for me has no special meaning because even when you grow vegetables "organic" (as a company) you are still allowed to use certain chemicals and still get the certificate!! I grow my own vegetables in my garden and my own standards are far beyond organic. I do even make my own "Terra Preta".
What I meant when I was saying that the costs for natural ingredients are by far not always justified is the fact that some of them are simply overpriced. All natural is good but if the prices are kept artificially high it is not justified.
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Originally posted by Phaethon View Post
I agree with you.
Organic for me has no special meaning because even when you grow vegetables "organic" (as a company) you are still allowed to use certain chemicals and still get the certificate!! I grow my own vegetables in my garden and my own standards are far beyond organic. I do even make my own "Terra Preta".
What I meant when I was saying that the costs for natural ingredients are by far not always justified is the fact that some of them are simply overpriced. All natural is good but if the prices are kept artificially high it is not justified.
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Originally posted by XSteveO View PostMy only concern currently is Murumuru butter. Its quite expensive but I think I can keep the cost/value proposition reasonable.
Originally posted by XSteveO View PostIf I can introduce people to pheromones through other means well than that's a good opportunity to help make people happier in life.
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Originally posted by Phaethon View PostBy the way XSteveO I was just thinking about what dose to start testing with when (if) I receive the sample. Will you (or Silvia) include a note with a recommendation for the testers? I've never tested a phero'd body butter but instinct wise I would just use it like a usual body lotionYou're never too old to learn NuTrix ^_~
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Originally posted by Phaethon View Post
Okay I will, thanks NuTrix
Do you know how long the pheromones last after application? Any experiences so far?
For me the effects are subtle. About 15 minutes after application I notice I feel pleasant, more content than happy/bubbly, but good.
Initially, which happens with new to me blends, there's a bit of a buzz. It doesn't last, 5-15 minutes at most and I notice it most if I'm just chilling. If I'm busy, I don't really notice it. Hehe, it said apply liberally...Anyone else experience this? Or am I applying too liberally
For the liberal amount I use, I haven't really used much! A little goes a looooong way
The fragrance is nice. To me, it isn't cloying or over powering - so you CAN apply liberally and not overwhelm yourself or your company, if you have company, lol.
You're never too old to learn NuTrix ^_~
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Originally posted by XSteveO View Post
Don't really know for certain yet, but guessing, I'd say 12-24 months. It has to go to a lab for proper testing. All natural is better but caveats are it goes rancid quicker and its triple the cost of synthetics. Unopened though, as per industry reports, should last 36 months.
It would def last a heck of a lot longer if kept cool and dark
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Originally posted by XSteveO View PostWhat's interesting Nu, is that I barely used any as compared to last time. Just enough to slightly cover any unpleasantness that might come from some of the butters and oils. I didn't want to use anything stripped of color or "ultra-refined" because it kind of changes the molecular formula of the natural state of a product. I've always worried about what exactly is the process and are they using harsh chemicals? I'm pretty sure since its only a stripping component that component wouldn't need to then be listed as an ingredient in say bees wax. Yeah sure we used formaldehyde or some other poison to strip it but no need to tell you. Rumor has it that's where some of the controversy came from with Jessica Alba's stuff.
Adding a smidgen of a cover helps cover the heavier butters like cocoa which in tiny amounts can overpower an entire batch even though its the least of ingredients in that scenario. This way it does have a nice scent when in concentrated bottle, but leaves little scent on the body and just like the other ingredients I went with all natural. I'd say the only thing that isn't is the pheromones.
I even sourced the Lanolin from a local sheep herder here in TN because I was concerned what people said were going on at factory farms. Its horrible! Now don't misunderstand me I'm a meat eater but I do try to source foods that are free range, organic and compassionate. The American factory slaughter house is a crime. Same thing with my beeswax. I happened to run into a honey bee farm a long while back in East TN out by the Smoky Mountains that had the best honey I've ever had-Sorghum. Local farmer small batch and just wow. Anyway get my beeswax from him and same guy referred my sheep dude.
Its going to be a balancing act with ensuring the source of the ingredients and keeping it all natural while hopefully ramping up production of these sorts of things to help intro mones to many more people.
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Originally posted by Muestereate View PostSkin bioengineering studies have shown the durational effect of the emollient (skin smoothing) action produced by lanolin is very significant and lasts for many hours. Lanolin applied to the skin at 2 mg/cm2 has been shown to reduce roughness by about 35% after one hour and 50% after two hours, with the overall effect lasting for considerably more than eight hours.[1] Lanolin is also known to form semi-occlusive (breathable) films on the skin.[2] When applied daily at around 4 mg/cm2 for five consecutive days, the positive moisturizing effects of lanolin were detectable until 72 hours after final application.[1] Lanolin may achieve some of its moisturizing effects by forming a secondary moisture reservoir within the skin.[9][10]
The barrier repair properties of lanolin have been reported to be superior to those produced by both petrolatum and glycerol.[1] In a small clinical study conducted on volunteer subjects with terribly dry (xerotic) hands, lanolin was shown to be superior to petrolatum in reducing the signs and symptoms of dryness and scaling, cracks and abrasions, and pain and itch. In another study, a high purity grade of lanolin was found to be significantly superior to petrolatum in assisting the healing of superficial wounds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanolin
Lanolin looks like a nice base for pheromones. Ive gotten a lot of good comments on scent when using lanolin products
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