XS202 Whipped xS&M Infused Body Butter SAMPLES

[Muestereate]

Well I think natural is fine, Its that damn organic trademark that's expensive

[NuTrix]

Well I think natural is fine, Its that damn organic trademark that's expensive

And to think, everything used to be organic until we started adding synthetics and chemicals, herbicides, fungicides, pesticides, GMOs...

It's a racket. Poison everything and then sell what's healthful at exorbitant prices...

[Muestereate]

Well hell, that was before my time. I used to raid the shed and spraying everything with DDT long before the Eagles got endangered. But I have to admit it tasted better when the ground was smothered in coal ashes. Boy the Steel Mill tomatoes. All that acid rain, sulfur potash etc.

[NuTrix]

Eeeeeewe! Boys are gross!

[Phaethon]

Well I think natural is fine, Its that damn organic trademark that's expensive

I agree with you.

Organic for me has no special meaning because even when you grow vegetables "organic" (as a company) you are still allowed to use certain chemicals and still get the certificate!! I grow my own vegetables in my garden and my own standards are far beyond organic. I do even make my own "Terra Preta".

What I meant when I was saying that the costs for natural ingredients are by far not always justified is the fact that some of them are simply overpriced. All natural is good but if the prices are kept artificially high it is not justified.

[XSteveO]

I agree with you.

Organic for me has no special meaning because even when you grow vegetables "organic" (as a company) you are still allowed to use certain chemicals and still get the certificate!! I grow my own vegetables in my garden and my own standards are far beyond organic. I do even make my own "Terra Preta".

What I meant when I was saying that the costs for natural ingredients are by far not always justified is the fact that some of them are simply overpriced. All natural is good but if the prices are kept artificially high it is not justified.

My only concern currently is Murumuru butter. Its quite expensive but I think I can keep the cost/value proposition reasonable. If I can introduce people to pheromones through other means well than that's a good opportunity to help make people happier in life.

[Phaethon]

My only concern currently is Murumuru butter. Its quite expensive but I think I can keep the cost/value proposition reasonable.

If have read about Murumuru Butter and as far as I can see it is a excellent natural skin care product even alone at itself. It is probably so expensive because it grows only in the Amazon rain forest, if I'm not mistaken.

If I can introduce people to pheromones through other means well than that's a good opportunity to help make people happier in life.

[Muestereate]

How does it differ from its much cheaper palm oil cousin? I see its melting point is still below body temperature.

[Phaethon]

By the way XSteveO I was just thinking about what dose to start testing with when (if) I receive the sample. Will you (or Silvia) include a note with a recommendation for the testers? I've never tested a phero'd body butter but instinct wise I would just use it like a usual body lotion

[NuTrix]

By the way XSteveO I was just thinking about what dose to start testing with when (if) I receive the sample. Will you (or Silvia) include a note with a recommendation for the testers? I've never tested a phero'd body butter but instinct wise I would just use it like a usual body lotion

Tehe, directions are on the label, apply liberally 1-2 times a day

[Phaethon]

Okay I will, thanks NuTrix
Do you know how long the pheromones last after application? Any experiences so far?

[NuTrix]

Okay I will, thanks NuTrix
Do you know how long the pheromones last after application? Any experiences so far?

I've honestly been using it only in the evenings because I use other products earlier in the day. Definitely 2+ hours at least for sure.
For me the effects are subtle. About 15 minutes after application I notice I feel pleasant, more content than happy/bubbly, but good.
Initially, which happens with new to me blends, there's a bit of a buzz. It doesn't last, 5-15 minutes at most and I notice it most if I'm just chilling. If I'm busy, I don't really notice it. Hehe, it said apply liberally...Anyone else experience this? Or am I applying too liberally
For the liberal amount I use, I haven't really used much! A little goes a looooong way
The fragrance is nice. To me, it isn't cloying or over powering - so you CAN apply liberally and not overwhelm yourself or your company, if you have company, lol.

[Phaethon]

The fragrance is nice. To me, it isn't cloying or over powering

So I guess it's a unisex scent?

[NuTrix]

So I guess it's a unisex scent?

It's fruity/floral. I find it feminine but then I guess that's because I don't know very many guys who smell fruity...??? That doesn't mean they couldn't...

[Tigris]

Don't really know for certain yet, but guessing, I'd say 12-24 months. It has to go to a lab for proper testing. All natural is better but caveats are it goes rancid quicker and its triple the cost of synthetics. Unopened though, as per industry reports, should last 36 months.

It would def last a heck of a lot longer if kept cool and dark

Sounds like you might be suggesting refrigerator storage! ...I’m pretty sure I have watched a YouTube video mentioning your recommending doing so with mones also! (Love the vids!)

[Tigris]

What's interesting Nu, is that I barely used any as compared to last time. Just enough to slightly cover any unpleasantness that might come from some of the butters and oils. I didn't want to use anything stripped of color or "ultra-refined" because it kind of changes the molecular formula of the natural state of a product. I've always worried about what exactly is the process and are they using harsh chemicals? I'm pretty sure since its only a stripping component that component wouldn't need to then be listed as an ingredient in say bees wax. Yeah sure we used formaldehyde or some other poison to strip it but no need to tell you. Rumor has it that's where some of the controversy came from with Jessica Alba's stuff.

Adding a smidgen of a cover helps cover the heavier butters like cocoa which in tiny amounts can overpower an entire batch even though its the least of ingredients in that scenario. This way it does have a nice scent when in concentrated bottle, but leaves little scent on the body and just like the other ingredients I went with all natural. I'd say the only thing that isn't is the pheromones.

I even sourced the Lanolin from a local sheep herder here in TN because I was concerned what people said were going on at factory farms. Its horrible! Now don't misunderstand me I'm a meat eater but I do try to source foods that are free range, organic and compassionate. The American factory slaughter house is a crime. Same thing with my beeswax. I happened to run into a honey bee farm a long while back in East TN out by the Smoky Mountains that had the best honey I've ever had-Sorghum. Local farmer small batch and just wow. Anyway get my beeswax from him and same guy referred my sheep dude.

Its going to be a balancing act with ensuring the source of the ingredients and keeping it all natural while hopefully ramping up production of these sorts of things to help intro mones to many more people.

I second what Nutrix said! - I both admire and adore all of consideration that you’re putting into this and also like the idea of introducing mones to more people! Any thing that can bring more joy and positive benefits to people is a good thing and deserves to be viewed with much better acceptance!
Let’s all start the “PHEROREVOLUTION”! ????

[Tigris]

If you can’t tell, I’d love to test this product! I’m new so even if I have to wait, I’ll be happy to tell all of my experiences when I’m able to!
I’ve been ready to make my next order since the beginning of the week and am thinking of making a call tomorrow morning. Otherwise, I’ve been on here long enough that I pretty much have my next order planned anyway. The info in this forum rocks!

[XSteveO]

Ask in your next order

[Mysticbeauty]

Is there still any available?

[XSteveO]

yes

[Tigris]

Skin bioengineering studies have shown the durational effect of the emollient (skin smoothing) action produced by lanolin is very significant and lasts for many hours. Lanolin applied to the skin at 2 mg/cm² has been shown to reduce roughness by about 35% after one hour and 50% after two hours, with the overall effect lasting for considerably more than eight hours.^[1] Lanolin is also known to form semi-occlusive (breathable) films on the skin.^[2] When applied daily at around 4 mg/cm² for five consecutive days, the positive moisturizing effects of lanolin were detectable until 72 hours after final application.^[1] Lanolin may achieve some of its moisturizing effects by forming a secondary moisture reservoir within the skin.^[9][10]

The barrier repair properties of lanolin have been reported to be superior to those produced by both petrolatum and glycerol.^[1] In a small clinical study conducted on volunteer subjects with terribly dry (xerotic) hands, lanolin was shown to be superior to petrolatum in reducing the signs and symptoms of dryness and scaling, cracks and abrasions, and pain and itch. In another study, a high purity grade of lanolin was found to be significantly superior to petrolatum in assisting the healing of superficial wounds.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanolin

Lanolin looks like a nice base for pheromones. Ive gotten a lot of good comments on scent when using lanolin products

That’s some incredible Information thank you! I personally vouch that the Whipped and Creamy Body Lotion leaves my hands feeling incredibly softer. I generally struggle with severely dry hands.

[Tigris]

Whipped Pheromone Body Cream.




It has an incredibly soft, soothing, nourishing texture. I love it as a natural cream. As I wrote before, I have extremely dry hands often. I spend quite a bit searching for a lotion that will actually help them. This cream competes right with the very best I’ve found. Especially in comfort and feel on my hands. The first two days I only rubbed about a quarter or half dollar sized portion on my hands. The second time I also placed some on the tip of my finger and rubbed it into my chin area. I felt calm but can’t really say if it was any more calm than before I used the cream. However, tonight, my third night using, I generously rubbed cream into my hands and both arms. I also placed a small bit on my chest and again on my chin area. This time I can say that I feel a more peaceful, relaxed state. More test to come.

[Tigris]

I forgot to mention my take on the scent. I love the way the cream smells. I agree that it may lean a tad feminine, but not drastically. I might not want to lather myself up completely with it alone prior to a big date, but of course I’d have on my mones then anyway! Lol... But, sticking on subject, I find the smell quite pleasing and once you rub it in the smell is in no way overpowering. I’ve had it on my hands currently for about an hour now as I type this and I can still smell the fruity, floral combo. I must stress that it’s subtle though and to really get a good handle on what I’m smelling I actually find myself sniffing my hands to assist while writing this. The smell is there but just pleasantly in the background unless I seek it out. ...I feel as if I’m possibly rambling and might should have wrote this later, but I wanted to write while fresh on my mind. The biggest point I wanted to stress was that in my opinion a male can feel comfortable wearing this cream without any negative concerns about the scent.