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  • Finding My Masculinity

    (Too long? Go to paragraph 6 for my experience)

    Hello everyone. I recently joined the forum after I received my first order. Awesome customer service btw.

    Brief backstory. I am a 30 year old West African living in the UK for a few years now. I got involved in organised religion at a very young age and it messed up with my view on sexual. This led to me having a very limited sexual experience for a guy my age. I'm finally getting some recovery with the help of hypnosis, tapping, subliminal audio, and complete avoidance of anything to do with organised religion.

    After reading about pheromones, I decided to place an order for Xist and Evolve. However, the EU store was out of stock, and me not being patient to wait for delivery from the USA, decided to go for Ascend and Cohesion. I mentioned this in my order. The next day, I got a call from customer service saying they just received new stock of Evolve and Xist, and if I would like to have those as well. With limited finances, I requested my order be changed to Xist and Ascend. I got my order three days later with samples of Evolve and Taboo. Sweet!

    I decided to try Evolve, three sprays - two to the neck, and on to one wrist which I rubbed onto the other wrist. I had no cover scent because I thought it did not smell bad and wondered what the recommendation on getting a cover scent was all about. What a noob! lol

    I left for the shops looking for iois but got none. I walked into the shop and was like "Bro, you stank!!". So, I went to the toiletries aisle and covered myself with some Lynx. It's the best I could find - don't judge me. It was either that or Brut . I noticed nothing out of the ordinary when I left the shop.

    I got back home and that's when things got interesting. I live in a shared accommodation with a live-in landlady, and a lady from a very conservative Asian country, let's call her V. As part of my journey to discover my masculinity, I have been "faking it until I make it". Using subtle language, I had given V the impression I'm very experienced. Being in the UK for less than six months, her guards are still high. However, that night, she asked if she could hang out with me in my room, to which I said yes. After being in my room for less than five minutes, she started talking about sexual stuff, and how she has never watched porn. I teased her I would make her watch it and she declined saying she's afraid she would get addicted.

    After being with me for about 20 minutes, V complained about my room being too hot for her. The landlady went to the kitchen for a cuppa and V joins her. I later join them and they became very chatty. V left for her room, and I stayed downstairs with the landlady. When I came back to my room, I got a text from V which suggested she was horny. She then asked me over text if I wanted to be her FWB. (I had told her what a fwb was a few days earlier. She thought it meant a generous friend). At this time I was beginning to freak out - things were just happening to fast for a guy with my limited experience.

    I told her I was up for a FWB. She then proceeded to set "rules" basically saying no one should ever find out. She then said she would be coming to my room for a make out and no penetration was allowed. She was in my room less than five minutes after that. We started making out and I try to take off her pants and she says no. I try again a few minutes later and she still says no. She gives me a bj but still said no when I tried to go down on her. So I backed off. However, out of nowhere, she takes off her pants and says she wants to feel me inside her. At this point, I'm REALLY freaking out. This made me lose my boner. Suddenly, the room became extra hot for me. I got very light headed and understood what she meant by my room being too hot. It wasn't the central heating.

    She begged me to penetrate her, but I made excuses, saying I had no protection and not being able to pull out on time. She spent more time with me before leaving for her room as I had to work early the next morning. After she left, I found it hard to go to sleep because of the heat even though I was naked with no sheets on. I was still feeling light-headed when I finally succeeded to fall asleep. I kept waking up at night feeling like I was drunk on whisky.

    V knew I had to leave for work early, so early in the morning, she came back to my room for another make-out session.

    I felt like I was suffering from a hangover when I was having a shower and even threw up. I had absolutely no appetite at work and all I ate was a small pork pie during a 24-hour shift. (I had two sprays of Ascend before going to work).

    So, I am very impressed at the effect the mones had on V, but the effect on me is not something I want to experience again. It seems to amplify my anxiety. What can I do to manage this negative self-effects?

  • #2
    Originally posted by Batigoal View Post
    (Too long? Go to paragraph 6 for my experience)

    Hello everyone. I recently joined the forum after I received my first order. Awesome customer service btw.

    Brief backstory. I am a 30 year old West African living in the UK for a few years now. I got involved in organised religion at a very young age and it messed up with my view on sexual. This led to me having a very limited sexual experience for a guy my age. I'm finally getting some recovery with the help of hypnosis, tapping, subliminal audio, and complete avoidance of anything to do with organised religion.

    After reading about pheromones, I decided to place an order for Xist and Evolve. However, the EU store was out of stock, and me not being patient to wait for delivery from the USA, decided to go for Ascend and Cohesion. I mentioned this in my order. The next day, I got a call from customer service saying they just received new stock of Evolve and Xist, and if I would like to have those as well. With limited finances, I requested my order be changed to Xist and Ascend. I got my order three days later with samples of Evolve and Taboo. Sweet!

    I decided to try Evolve, three sprays - two to the neck, and on to one wrist which I rubbed onto the other wrist. I had no cover scent because I thought it did not smell bad and wondered what the recommendation on getting a cover scent was all about. What a noob! lol

    I left for the shops looking for iois but got none. I walked into the shop and was like "Bro, you stank!!". So, I went to the toiletries aisle and covered myself with some Lynx. It's the best I could find - don't judge me. It was either that or Brut . I noticed nothing out of the ordinary when I left the shop.

    I got back home and that's when things got interesting. I live in a shared accommodation with a live-in landlady, and a lady from a very conservative Asian country, let's call her V. As part of my journey to discover my masculinity, I have been "faking it until I make it". Using subtle language, I had given V the impression I'm very experienced. Being in the UK for less than six months, her guards are still high. However, that night, she asked if she could hang out with me in my room, to which I said yes. After being in my room for less than five minutes, she started talking about sexual stuff, and how she has never watched porn. I teased her I would make her watch it and she declined saying she's afraid she would get addicted.

    After being with me for about 20 minutes, V complained about my room being too hot for her. The landlady went to the kitchen for a cuppa and V joins her. I later join them and they became very chatty. V left for her room, and I stayed downstairs with the landlady. When I came back to my room, I got a text from V which suggested she was horny. She then asked me over text if I wanted to be her FWB. (I had told her what a fwb was a few days earlier. She thought it meant a generous friend). At this time I was beginning to freak out - things were just happening to fast for a guy with my limited experience.

    I told her I was up for a FWB. She then proceeded to set "rules" basically saying no one should ever find out. She then said she would be coming to my room for a make out and no penetration was allowed. She was in my room less than five minutes after that. We started making out and I try to take off her pants and she says no. I try again a few minutes later and she still says no. She gives me a bj but still said no when I tried to go down on her. So I backed off. However, out of nowhere, she takes off her pants and says she wants to feel me inside her. At this point, I'm REALLY freaking out. This made me lose my boner. Suddenly, the room became extra hot for me. I got very light headed and understood what she meant by my room being too hot. It wasn't the central heating.

    She begged me to penetrate her, but I made excuses, saying I had no protection and not being able to pull out on time. She spent more time with me before leaving for her room as I had to work early the next morning. After she left, I found it hard to go to sleep because of the heat even though I was naked with no sheets on. I was still feeling light-headed when I finally succeeded to fall asleep. I kept waking up at night feeling like I was drunk on whisky.

    V knew I had to leave for work early, so early in the morning, she came back to my room for another make-out session.

    I felt like I was suffering from a hangover when I was having a shower and even threw up. I had absolutely no appetite at work and all I ate was a small pork pie during a 24-hour shift. (I had two sprays of Ascend before going to work).

    So, I am very impressed at the effect the mones had on V, but the effect on me is not something I want to experience again. It seems to amplify my anxiety. What can I do to manage this negative self-effects?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Batigoal View Post
      (Too long? Go to paragraph 6 for my experience)

      Hello everyone. I recently joined the forum after I received my first order. Awesome customer service btw.

      Brief backstory. I am a 30 year old West African living in the UK for a few years now. I got involved in organised religion at a very young age and it messed up with my view on sexual. This led to me having a very limited sexual experience for a guy my age. I'm finally getting some recovery with the help of hypnosis, tapping, subliminal audio, and complete avoidance of anything to do with organised religion.

      After reading about pheromones, I decided to place an order for Xist and Evolve. However, the EU store was out of stock, and me not being patient to wait for delivery from the USA, decided to go for Ascend and Cohesion. I mentioned this in my order. The next day, I got a call from customer service saying they just received new stock of Evolve and Xist, and if I would like to have those as well. With limited finances, I requested my order be changed to Xist and Ascend. I got my order three days later with samples of Evolve and Taboo. Sweet!

      I decided to try Evolve, three sprays - two to the neck, and on to one wrist which I rubbed onto the other wrist. I had no cover scent because I thought it did not smell bad and wondered what the recommendation on getting a cover scent was all about. What a noob! lol

      I left for the shops looking for iois but got none. I walked into the shop and was like "Bro, you stank!!". So, I went to the toiletries aisle and covered myself with some Lynx. It's the best I could find - don't judge me. It was either that or Brut . I noticed nothing out of the ordinary when I left the shop.

      I got back home and that's when things got interesting. I live in a shared accommodation with a live-in landlady, and a lady from a very conservative Asian country, let's call her V. As part of my journey to discover my masculinity, I have been "faking it until I make it". Using subtle language, I had given V the impression I'm very experienced. Being in the UK for less than six months, her guards are still high. However, that night, she asked if she could hang out with me in my room, to which I said yes. After being in my room for less than five minutes, she started talking about sexual stuff, and how she has never watched porn. I teased her I would make her watch it and she declined saying she's afraid she would get addicted.

      After being with me for about 20 minutes, V complained about my room being too hot for her. The landlady went to the kitchen for a cuppa and V joins her. I later join them and they became very chatty. V left for her room, and I stayed downstairs with the landlady. When I came back to my room, I got a text from V which suggested she was horny. She then asked me over text if I wanted to be her FWB. (I had told her what a fwb was a few days earlier. She thought it meant a generous friend). At this time I was beginning to freak out - things were just happening to fast for a guy with my limited experience.

      I told her I was up for a FWB. She then proceeded to set "rules" basically saying no one should ever find out. She then said she would be coming to my room for a make out and no penetration was allowed. She was in my room less than five minutes after that. We started making out and I try to take off her pants and she says no. I try again a few minutes later and she still says no. She gives me a bj but still said no when I tried to go down on her. So I backed off. However, out of nowhere, she takes off her pants and says she wants to feel me inside her. At this point, I'm REALLY freaking out. This made me lose my boner. Suddenly, the room became extra hot for me. I got very light headed and understood what she meant by my room being too hot. It wasn't the central heating.

      She begged me to penetrate her, but I made excuses, saying I had no protection and not being able to pull out on time. She spent more time with me before leaving for her room as I had to work early the next morning. After she left, I found it hard to go to sleep because of the heat even though I was naked with no sheets on. I was still feeling light-headed when I finally succeeded to fall asleep. I kept waking up at night feeling like I was drunk on whisky.

      V knew I had to leave for work early, so early in the morning, she came back to my room for another make-out session.

      I felt like I was suffering from a hangover when I was having a shower and even threw up. I had absolutely no appetite at work and all I ate was a small pork pie during a 24-hour shift. (I had two sprays of Ascend before going to work).

      So, I am very impressed at the effect the mones had on V, but the effect on me is not something I want to experience again. It seems to amplify my anxiety. What can I do to manage this negative self-effects?
      Nice man! Looks like you got right into it. Don't worry about the hiccup you had. Try adding one spray of ascend next time it gave me really good confidence hopefully it does the same to you
      Pheromone XS
      Oil: evolve, xist
      Spray: Xist, Evolve, cohesion, sob

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      • #4
        Thank you. Yeah, my groove was messed up but a firm foundation was laid. Despite what I consider as me messing up the moment big time, today she asked me why I was so confident that night. It's like she had a completely different experience. Now, that has increased my confidence.

        I have Hugo Boss Man of Today EDT but it lasts less than a couple of hours. Is there a means for me to get/purchase samples of the cover scents before ordering? I don't what to get a cover scent, like Aventus, which has all the praises but I end up not liking it. I have used Acqua Di Gio before and really liked it but will also like to try something else.

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        • #5
          The smell of women can be intoxicating huh?

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          • Batigoal
            Batigoal commented
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            Very intoxicating

        • #6
          Originally posted by Primross View Post

          Nice man! Looks like you got right into it. Don't worry about the hiccup you had. Try adding one spray of ascend next time it gave me really good confidence hopefully it does the same to you
          I used Ascend on its own on Sunday when I went to work. Two sprays to the neck. I did not get any positive feedback similar to what I read on the forums. I guess I can't count that as Ascend solo though - I used Evolve less than 18 hours prior. I tried scrubbing the application points during my morning shower to get rid of the Evolve. I'm not sure if I got rid of it or not.

          I will test Xist tomorrow. One spray to the back of my neck. My theory is I inhaled too much of the mones from my wrist and neck when I was sleeping. I'm a bit cautious not to overdose at the moment and get another day of blues. With time and increased confidence, I can learn to mix them up. I can't wait.

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          • #7
            All that evolve you used probably had a hand in the anxiety. I like to wear that away from the face. Inner thigh, lower stomach both above or below the belt. If it is real warm I put a lot of stuff behind my knees if I'm wearing shorts. Take it easy and build up. At your age and your religious suppression. Mones are just going to be the icing on the cake. I'm betting that room would have been torrid without ANY mones. Lol

            These pheromones are potent. See how little you can get away with. When I get self-conscious i up the dosages but I've done a lot of microdoses that had effects on others. I put a little of something on everytime I'm going into public, hence I often forget I'm wearing them unless I have a good amount of some sort of fragrance.

            Even If I can't smell them, they are still working. Personally more than 1 and a half of Steves stuff and people are going the other direction if I don't have cologne on.

            I od'd the other day, I put on some stuff before going into a restaurant but a few hours beforehand had put on some social stuff. My friends started getting sick, nose stuff, eyes red, a bit of tearing I noticed. I ran into the bathroom and wiped it off with paper and water. All was well and don't worry. Paper and water doesn't wash more than half of it off. In fact, that is when I often find it's working best. Right past OD then paper towel and water. I believe my waitress is lesbian but I still got some extra whipped cream on my punkin pie.

            You have two excellent products by the way. my personal dosage is one and a half sprays. One at a time. I'm not sure they work together for me. different goals.
            Last edited by Muestereate; 11-20-2018, 05:42 AM.

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            • #8
              Thank you very much Muestereate. Very helpful tips. Apart from the wrists, I did not know I could wear them below the chest area. I will start wearing them on my inner thigh area and see the outcome.

              The evolve I used was a sample. I read somewhere the amount per spray from the sample is smaller than the one from the normal bottles. I used three sprays from the sample to get an approximate equivalence of two sprays. I guess I will be sticking to two sprays max from the sample.

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              • #9
                I used one spray of Xist to the back of my neck before leaving for the mall today. I noticed nothing significant while I was out. I used the public transport on my way back and I noticed this girl, probably 18-20 checking me out. I first thought it was placebo, but the frequency of her looking towards my direction was not something to be ignored, especially as she was with a female friend, and they were having a fun conversation.

                Also, there was this little girl, 5 years old max, who did not stop starring at me. That creeped me out. lol

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                • #10
                  Originally posted by Batigoal View Post
                  I used one spray of Xist to the back of my neck before leaving for the mall today. I noticed nothing significant while I was out. I used the public transport on my way back and I noticed this girl, probably 18-20 checking me out. I first thought it was placebo, but the frequency of her looking towards my direction was not something to be ignored, especially as she was with a female friend, and they were having a fun conversation.

                  Also, there was this little girl, 5 years old max, who did not stop starring at me. That creeped me out. lol
                  nice report. I've never tried one spray of cost before I always do 2 per site recommendations. Perhaps it's a good match for your natural sig because I don't think that is know for being a hard hitter it takes time to see a result
                  Pheromone XS
                  Oil: evolve, xist
                  Spray: Xist, Evolve, cohesion, sob

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                  • #11
                    That's what I'm talking about. It's enough to get you noticed. Most days that's good enough for me. I'm just happy that people are nice.

                    On your upper legs are two major arteries and they follow two major tendons that that hold your lower stomach to your legs. called the femoral artery if you want to look it up. I often combine boxer shorts with that app point whether or not I'm wearing shorts.

                    If your religous upbringing didn't include abuse, you'll be able to get right over that hump. If anything, when people tell people they can't have something, they want it more.

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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by Muestereate View Post
                      That's what I'm talking about. It's enough to get you noticed. Most days that's good enough for me. I'm just happy that people are nice.

                      On your upper legs are two major arteries and they follow two major tendons that that hold your lower stomach to your legs. called the femoral artery if you want to look it up. I often combine boxer shorts with that app point whether or not I'm wearing shorts.

                      If your religous upbringing didn't include abuse, you'll be able to get right over that hump. If anything, when people tell people they can't have something, they want it more.
                      Never thought to put on the femorals. I guess that would be when it's time to bang?
                      Pheromone XS
                      Oil: evolve, xist
                      Spray: Xist, Evolve, cohesion, sob

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                      • #13
                        It hits at table height and the skin stays warm. On the lower ab is the inguinal tendons. A bit cooler but they work hard and handle a lot of the body's weight. I kindo of loot at them as a pheronal center of gravity that the rest of the body rotates around. Think Dancing.

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                        • #14
                          But wouldn't clothing be in the way?
                          Pheromone XS
                          Oil: evolve, xist
                          Spray: Xist, Evolve, cohesion, sob

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                          • Muestereate
                            Muestereate commented
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                            loose, with Boxers

                        • #15
                          I'm used to slow oil dispersion. I have bad luck with spray in your face. I'm older, Its takes a while for the girls to set aside prejudice. My walks are timed usually, They ponder the idea of sex, I spot it and get some torso near their faces at the same time. walk away and come back, xist style. My escalation sucks but I think the idea of separation may need to precede escalation so the younger girls can save face with the other girls. I may need to do a double separation. Once me from them and second them from their peers BEFORE I can escalate. Sad state of affairs but adapt or die. Dead Men get no Tail.

                          Still adapting to being accepting my age and working with it instead of it working against me. Nuanced and subtle, Aint quite got the suave thing down but after getting pissed of AGAIN the other day, I think I've come up with some new direction instead of, 'just spray more mones'

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                          • #16
                            Originally posted by Muestereate View Post
                            I'm used to slow oil dispersion. I have bad luck with spray in your face. I'm older, Its takes a while for the girls to set aside prejudice. My walks are timed usually, They ponder the idea of sex, I spot it and get some torso near their faces at the same time. walk away and come back, xist style. My escalation sucks but I think the idea of separation may need to precede escalation so the younger girls can save face with the other girls. I may need to do a double separation. Once me from them and second them from their peers BEFORE I can escalate. Sad state of affairs but adapt or die. Dead Men get no Tail.

                            Still adapting to being accepting my age and working with it instead of it working against me. Nuanced and subtle, Aint quite got the suave thing down but after getting pissed of AGAIN the other day, I think I've come up with some new direction instead of, 'just spray more mones'
                            Well it seems like you are ad paying to it how old are you?
                            Pheromone XS
                            Oil: evolve, xist
                            Spray: Xist, Evolve, cohesion, sob

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                          • #17
                            Don't limit yourself many guys that age get good girls and it sounds like you have adapted your game for your strengths.
                            Pheromone XS
                            Oil: evolve, xist
                            Spray: Xist, Evolve, cohesion, sob

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                            • #18
                              It's possible. I'm 54, she's 30.

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                              • #19
                                Originally posted by Scottie2Hottie View Post
                                It's possible. I'm 54, she's 30.
                                Girls dig the older guys
                                Pheromone XS
                                Oil: evolve, xist
                                Spray: Xist, Evolve, cohesion, sob

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                                • #20
                                  Originally posted by Primross View Post

                                  Girls dig the older guys
                                  There is something to be said for experience.

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