Copulins in Asia

[Xcc]

Pandatrooper eternitys_child elvin.tan77 iamestix bellandur

To the Asian brothers, so I was thinking that androstenone may be a bad idea in Asian countries because of the more conservative environment. But on the other hand, I think Asian countries emphasize harmony and even conformity.

Copulins seems to be a social mating cue because it makes other women horny, but in a different way than androstenone. Androstenone is arousal from being around a man high in testosterone. Copulins are released when another woman is near ovulation or is ovulating. So copulins seem to act like a mating signal. Androstenone doesn't seem to act as a mating signal as much as signaling a man has high testosterone.

So copulins may provide a social context to signal to others that it's time to mate, whereas androstenone signals “high testosterone man”. So since copulins might be more of a social signal or social cue, I wonder if copulins might work better in Asia countries than androstenone.

So to our Asian brothers, please compare your experiences with copulins versus androstenone products.

Oh, and to 2000GT of course, and knowledgeispower

[knowledgeispower]

Pandatrooper eternitys_child elvin.tan77 iamestix bellandur

To the Asian brothers, so I was thinking that androstenone may be a bad idea in Asian countries because of the more conservative environment. But on the other hand, I think Asian countries emphasize harmony and even conformity.

Copulins seems to be a social mating cue because it makes other women horny, but in a different way than androstenone. Androstenone is arousal from being around a man high in testosterone. Copulins are released when another woman is near ovulation or is ovulating. So copulins seem to act like a mating signal. Androstenone doesn't seem to act as a mating signal as much as signaling a man has high testosterone.

So copulins may provide a social context to signal to others that it's time to mate, whereas androstenone signals “high testosterone man”. So since copulins might be more of a social signal or social cue, I wonder if copulins might work better in Asia countries than androstenone.

So to our Asian brothers, please compare your experiences with copulins versus androstenone products.

Oh, and to 2000GT of course, and knowledgeispower

Wow interesting thinking I can see how that may be a way to interpret things. I would love to read reports from people who may have experience with both around asians

[KateD]

me too

[eternitys_child]

it's clever in theory, but in my experience wearing ascend WITH cops in india, i spent the entire day being out interacting with people and i was getting negative hits consistently. people were rude to me and disrespected me. it was horrible. i remember it very vividly. quite the opposite experience you expect for someone wearing an ALPHA pheromone.

i think it's because ascend w/ cops gives you a vibe of being a dominant man who just had sex -- and a single man should not be giving off this vibe in traditional/conservative asian culture. Their interpretation of the phero signature may very well be "rapist".

I suppose copulins could be used on a man if his phero signature was extremely comforting, like with a good dose of cohesion. but then we're getting into experimental territory.

other than my above experience, i don't have much to offer about the subject.

[Xcc]

eternitys_child Thank you for adding this. That day sounded like it really sucked!

[Pandatrooper]

Xcc my experience with cops is that my wife gets very possessive or jealous if i have it on or when she is exposed to it long enough. For day time game, girls think you are a play boy and a jerk that just assume that you say things to get into her pants.. yes, thats whats been happening to me in Indonesia. Funny how women here mostly are quite sensitive with guys smelling like their vajayjay hahaha.

However, when u apply it for gyms, clubs, raves and beach parties.. man, especially if you combine with bad wolf and xist or bad wolf and cohesion.. BAM! HIT CITY! sigh.. sometimes it even made me wish i was back being single again.. that lone wolf.. with bunch of secret elixir.. muahahahaha

[Xcc]

Pandatrooper Excellent commentary for the brothers! So what you are saying is that this is about CONTEXT, and possibly personality. The women at clubs, raves, and beach parties might be different than women who do not go to such events. But there is also context. When women are at clubs and raves, it is somewhat common that they are ovulating...

Watch this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G43Grbgupds

The man researcher has a good sense of humor... Listen to his quote about one woman who is revealing about 25% of her skin...
"Enough for a very cold autumn evening."

You: So why are you at this club tonight?
Woman: Oh, ummmm. I'm just here with my friends to have fun. My boyfriend doesn't like clubbing.
You: Hmmmmmmm...

[KateD]

Or women who are at those places are super horny out looking for some (Ahem!!!!)

[iamestix]

Personally my ascend came without cops because before I ordered the ascend, I did some studies whether want it with cops or not. Many negative review due to the smell and hard to cover but at the same time some positive reviews too. So ended up I chose to order it without copulins. Maybe that is the reason why my ascend mones giving out signal is not that strong .

[knowledgeispower]

Personally my ascend came without cops because before I ordered the ascend, I did some studies whether want it with cops or not. Many negative review due to the smell and hard to cover but at the same time some positive reviews too. So ended up I chose to order it without copulins. Maybe that is the reason why my ascend mones giving out signal is not that strong .

I don't blame you I first ordered Ascend without cops for the same reason. There is a lot of misinformation out there on cops in my opinion and many people don't try them because they hear all the scary stories or they get turned off by the smell and think they are bad. In reality cops are probably one of the most potent weapons in a pheromone user's arsenal

[Xcc]

iamestix I am here in the USA. I can wear formulas with copulins in them easily. Women will stand closer to me when I wear copulins. So the "stink" is not a repellent. I've only had 2 people complain out of many people.

Now in an Asian country, some people say that smelling like copulins makes people avoid them. I don't know what to tell you in that regards.

Pandatrooper eternitys_child elvin.tan77 2000GT Tsukotan might be able to better advise you.

[KateD]

boy please, I love the smell of cops. I sniff my hubbies unscented stuff all the time and I never get enough when he wears them

[2000GT]

well, I knew a gal who was part Japanese, part Latina and she responded very well to DP. Though, it's fair to point out that the girl was from the US, so I can't say for sure how someone from Asia would react. Can't hurt to try it out and see.

[Tsukotan]

Copulins, a Japanese friend of mine doesn't seem to be bothered by it. But just her, others seem to be bothered by it...

[Xcc]

Tsukotan Thank you for your input!

[iamestix]

Maybe soon I will be ordering the Ascend with copulins then try testing out in my country. Hope won't feel rejected!

[Pandatrooper]

iamestix cops is generally fine for women. as long as dont apply it too much around your wife or serious gf... Unless you have been getting laid with your wife or serious gf, then they are fine with it... but if you smell of cops after you just had an argument or have not seen her for the wkend or etc, don't. thats my what my experience with cops has taught me so far.

[iamestix]

Pandatrooper Thanks for the advice! I'll write it down in my Pheromone Notebook. I am now waiting for XIST to be available again then I will order Exotica, Ascend with Cops together with it. Now just have to wait for Steve O to restock XiST.

[Xcc]

iamestix I would encourage you to consider getting a sample of Ascend with copulins first to test it. If the copulins cause you problems because people shun you, then it's only a sample. If not, then maybe order a full bottle. Just an idea.

[iamestix]

Xcc oh yeah, nice idea. I didn't think of it at all, maybe I would try asking Steve O when I do another order thanks for the idea bro!

[knowledgeispower]

Having used cops I recommend everyone get Desire Me oil. That way they can add or remove cops from any blend they want. Ascend w/cops is good, but sometimes you don't want Ascend but want the cops, etc. So it's nice to have variety. But then again that is an additional expense, but to be fair, $59.99 is not a bad price at all for Desire Me oil! Also on that note...the price shows you how honest PXS is. They could easily charge $80 for the Desire Me oils to match all their other oils, but they're not trying to price gouge us, and I (assume) that because copulins are cheaper than other mones, they only charge $60 for the bottle rather than $80...

[elvin.tan77]

Sorry guys. I've been stuck at work quite abit. On top of that, I had an accident and broke a toe so I don't really get to wear much phero for the past month. Ok back to Cops. I've got 3 items with me that contains them.

- Ascend
- S.O.B
- Desire Me Oil

Background: I'm fairly ok looking with a boyish look. Physical wise, I run about 32 miles weekly and I do Yoga and body weight training. So I'm pretty lean and athletic looking. I have a good posture and I walk with confidence although inside I may not be so

Ascend Solo: Selfie - I feel more confidence and more dominant. I stand straighter and I talk what's on my mind. Colleagues tend to be a tad quieter, especially when I want to talk. They don't really get put off by it but this is mainly because I'm always perceived as a friendly guy. Girls tend to give you looks from the corner or DIH from a distance. Approaching wise, not really, but if they're around, they'll hang around you.

Ascend with Cohesion: Same as above. Main difference is a lighter atmosphere. Girls are more ready to talk and approach you. It also has the tendency to imprint you on them. I've gotten a girl who says I should be in porn coz I got a nice body in a departmental meeting in front of the business owner who happens to be a lady boss. All of us were looking at here wide eyed lol.

S.O.B Solo: Selfie - I feel smooth. Mainly because I seem to don't really give a damn about things. Especially with girls. If they wanna approach me so be it. If not then oh well, good riddance. I also don't seem to really mind telling them what I think which give rise to interesting reaction from the girls.

Desire Me Oil: Have not had the chance to wear it as yet, but I think I will get girls to be flirty with me for sure. Why do I say so?

Both Ascend and SOB has Cops. However, SOB has a lesser concentration of enone iirc. With SOB, the girls are more ready to approach you and get touchy as compared to Ascend. Cops work for Asians no worries. Don't get me wrong though. I'm not saying Ascend does not work here. It does. Just that you have to be ready to work for it to get pass that barrier of a respect this thing comes with. Once you're through that, the girls get really touchy and flirty with you.

[Xcc]

elvin.tan77 Some people who live in Asian countries are saying people avoid them or look down on them if they smell of copulins, especially if they are single. Could you please comment on that?

What country are you in?