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    User's of instant shine, I would appreciate your input. I began trying to recreate IS long ago and made some good progress but shelved the project because I had too many products and got side tracked. I thought it would be fun to pick this up again as it looks like Shine is gone for good.

    I'm wanting people to describe how Shine makes them feel and how they found it to effect others in as much detail as possible. I still have about 15ml of IS 2x that I'm going to use for reference but I thought it wouldn't hurt to get others opinions.

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    its almost like you combine Vibe+Bliss, considering they're both unisex so I didn't include Ascend.
    : : END TRANSMISSION : :

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    • #3
      Originally posted by EMPYREAL View Post
      its almost like you combine Vibe+Bliss, considering they're both unisex so I didn't include Ascend.
      Care to elaborate? Are you saying Shine effects people similarly to a combo of Vibe+Bliss? Where does Ascend come in to all this?

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      • #4
        To me, Androsterone-Sulfate works similar so as many others have speculated, it seems to be an integral part of old IS.
        DHES-S might also be a component as I got distinct beautifying and attraction of younger women (18-~22) from IS which DHEA-S on it's own is also known for

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        • #5
          Originally posted by GorchFock View Post
          To me, Androsterone-Sulfate works similar so as many others have speculated, it seems to be an integral part of old IS.
          DHES-S might also be a component as I got distinct beautifying and attraction of younger women (18-~22) from IS which DHEA-S on it's own is also known for
          I appreciate your input on the formula. I'm confident I know what's in it and yes I agree that Rone-s and DHEA-S make up the majority of the composition. I'm sure there is a smidgen of something else in there as well and I will probably release the formula once I'm done if there is enough interest.

          What I'm really wanting to know is how IS makes people feel and how it affects others around them. This will help me nail down the ratio's. IMO I don't think it's over 30mcg per spray.

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          • #6
            Already been done.
            Brute, Dominant Ascend, Prowl, APi, Evolve spray, PSE spray, XSP74 12.5 mcg, XSP75 12.5 mcg, XSP83 12.5 mcg, XSP86 12.5 mcg, XSP93 12.5 mcg, XSP96 12.5 mcg, XSR29 12.5 mcg, XSR32 12.5 mcg, XSR35 12.5 mcg, XSR36 12.5 mcg XSR37 12.5 mcg, XSR39 12.5 mcg, XSR85 12.5mcg, AndrostAnone 25 mcg, AdrostEnone 5 mcg, DHEA 40 mcg, DHEAS 30 mcg, Androsterone 10 mcg, Epi-Androsterone 10 mcg, Androsterone Sulfate 40 mcg, A1 20 mcg, Alpha Androstenol 40 mcg, Beta Androstenol 50 mcg

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Scottie2Hottie View Post
              Already been done.
              Care to provide a link?

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              • #8
                Scottie went wild on this. He's too humble, its his thread. https://discoverxs.com/forum/pheromo...ject#post57121

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GHOST View Post

                  I appreciate your input on the formula. I'm confident I know what's in it and yes I agree that Rone-s and DHEA-S make up the majority of the composition. I'm sure there is a smidgen of something else in there as well and I will probably release the formula once I'm done if there is enough interest.

                  What I'm really wanting to know is how IS makes people feel and how it affects others around them. This will help me nail down the ratio's. IMO I don't think it's over 30mcg per spray.
                  Ah, sorry I misunderstood you there.
                  I like Rone-S in doses around 12,5mcg, so your <30mcg total seems sensible.

                  I would'nt put Alpha-Anol in there as Scottie did, I did not get any Anol effects from IS. DHEA is useless to me. Beta-AndrostAnol ssems a logical addition. Looking forward to what you have figured out.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Muestereate View Post
                    Scottie went wild on this. He's too humble, its his thread. https://discoverxs.com/forum/pheromo...ject#post57121
                    With respect to Scottie I have to agree with Gorchfock. I don't think Anol is in the original formulation of Shine.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by GorchFock View Post

                      Ah, sorry I misunderstood you there.
                      I like Rone-S in doses around 12,5mcg, so your <30mcg total seems sensible.

                      I would'nt put Alpha-Anol in there as Scottie did, I did not get any Anol effects from IS. DHEA is useless to me. Beta-AndrostAnol ssems a logical addition. Looking forward to what you have figured out.
                      My experience with beta-AndrostAnol is limited. Can you explain your reasoning why you think it is a logical addition?

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                      • #12
                        The selfies of ß-Anol are similar to the best Shines I used. Increased mood, confidence, intellectualy enhancing. It's also a molecule that signals immunological health (CAR-antagonist) and seems to induce attraction and friendliness of both women and men with no status-reduction. Together with Rone-S it beats Shine hands down for me, I don't even use DHEA-S with them, but two other molecules for steering

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by GorchFock View Post
                          The selfies of ß-Anol are similar to the best Shines I used. Increased mood, confidence, intellectualy enhancing. It's also a molecule that signals immunological health (CAR-antagonist) and seems to induce attraction and friendliness of both women and men with no status-reduction. Together with Rone-S it beats Shine hands down for me, I don't even use DHEA-S with them, but two other molecules for steering
                          Interesting. When I tested it, I seemed to get a slight increase in friendliness but not much else. I have it in 25mcg per spray though. Do you recommend a lower dose? I noticed it had a very pungent smell as well.

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                          • #14
                            I use ß-Anol with Rone-S in a ratio of 1:5 with both used as 25mcg sprays, so yes, 25mcg might be too much for the effects I experience.

                            I'm not able to smell most of the steroids but ß-anol has a pungent, seroid ke scent to mee as well. Curiously, I had Neroli-scented Shines that reeked of steroids and some that did not.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by GHOST View Post

                              I appreciate your input on the formula. I'm confident I know what's in it and yes I agree that Rone-s and DHEA-S make up the majority of the composition. I'm sure there is a smidgen of something else in there as well and I will probably release the formula once I'm done if there is enough interest.

                              What I'm really wanting to know is how IS makes people feel and how it affects others around them. This will help me nail down the ratio's. IMO I don't think it's over 30mcg per spray.
                              Have you actually ever looked at the product page? It's a two molecule formula. According to SteveO it does not contain Rone Sulfate. How can you claim to know what's in Shine when you obviously know nothing about the formula?
                              Brute, Dominant Ascend, Prowl, APi, Evolve spray, PSE spray, XSP74 12.5 mcg, XSP75 12.5 mcg, XSP83 12.5 mcg, XSP86 12.5 mcg, XSP93 12.5 mcg, XSP96 12.5 mcg, XSR29 12.5 mcg, XSR32 12.5 mcg, XSR35 12.5 mcg, XSR36 12.5 mcg XSR37 12.5 mcg, XSR39 12.5 mcg, XSR85 12.5mcg, AndrostAnone 25 mcg, AdrostEnone 5 mcg, DHEA 40 mcg, DHEAS 30 mcg, Androsterone 10 mcg, Epi-Androsterone 10 mcg, Androsterone Sulfate 40 mcg, A1 20 mcg, Alpha Androstenol 40 mcg, Beta Androstenol 50 mcg

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by GorchFock View Post

                                Ah, sorry I misunderstood you there.
                                I like Rone-S in doses around 12,5mcg, so your <30mcg total seems sensible.

                                I would'nt put Alpha-Anol in there as Scottie did, I did not get any Anol effects from IS. DHEA is useless to me. Beta-AndrostAnol ssems a logical addition. Looking forward to what you have figured out.
                                Actually Shine made me and others chatty as hell, very much like Anol. This is one of the things I liked about Shine. I'm very stoic by nature. Shine always brought me out of my shell. So what molecule do you think causes that effect? It certainly isn't Beta androstanol.
                                Brute, Dominant Ascend, Prowl, APi, Evolve spray, PSE spray, XSP74 12.5 mcg, XSP75 12.5 mcg, XSP83 12.5 mcg, XSP86 12.5 mcg, XSP93 12.5 mcg, XSP96 12.5 mcg, XSR29 12.5 mcg, XSR32 12.5 mcg, XSR35 12.5 mcg, XSR36 12.5 mcg XSR37 12.5 mcg, XSR39 12.5 mcg, XSR85 12.5mcg, AndrostAnone 25 mcg, AdrostEnone 5 mcg, DHEA 40 mcg, DHEAS 30 mcg, Androsterone 10 mcg, Epi-Androsterone 10 mcg, Androsterone Sulfate 40 mcg, A1 20 mcg, Alpha Androstenol 40 mcg, Beta Androstenol 50 mcg

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Scottie2Hottie View Post

                                  Have you actually ever looked at the product page? It's a two molecule formula. According to SteveO it does not contain Rone Sulfate. How can you claim to know what's in Shine when you obviously know nothing about the formula?
                                  No, Androtics has confirmed that it carries so called "steering" molecules as well. I don't know which claim is true. I also don't think that SteveO can rule out Shine containing Rone-S, he always stated back in the days that he is not privy to Androtics exact formulas.

                                  As to your question: Both Rone-S and DHEA-S are able to induce "chattiness" given their nature as negative allosteric modulators of certain GABAa-R subunits. Especialy when your default nature is stoic, reserved than the excitatory effect of that MoA can result in chattiness. DHEA-S more so than Rone-S, but both could.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Scottie2Hottie View Post

                                    Have you actually ever looked at the product page? It's a two molecule formula. According to SteveO it does not contain Rone Sulfate. How can you claim to know what's in Shine when you obviously know nothing about the formula?
                                    It's called thorough testing Scottie. Maybe you should try it instead of relying on Steve to fill in the gaps for you.

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