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  • I just saw that... I’ve been lurking on there a few times and I’m just still baffled at how there were people paying for them.... *looks at SteveOs prices*
    Originally posted by Primross View Post
    They will fail soon. People won't pay that much when there are much better and affordable options. They are so stupid to charge $100 for 5ml of p96
    PXS (FB): Happiness, DM+, Cohesion, PSEL, Sexy Confidence, Babe, Xist/w, Outspoken, Celebrity, XSP-H, XSR32, XS96, XS86,

    PXS (S): Tease, Temptress, Babe, Bliss


    LPMP (FB): Buttercream Peach w/LAM + Aja, Odalisque w/ Bang (2x bottles), OCCO: Coco Cocoa, Honeyed Love Potion w/ Gotcha
    Alkemia: Burning Roses,
    Elixir of Aphrodite, La Belle Sorcière, Black Roses


    FB = Full Bottle, S = Sample

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    • They have to realise there doomed
      Pheromone XS Oil: Xist, Cohesion, API, Evolve,SOB, Domination, Desire Me Spray: Xist, Evolve, SOB, Bliss, XSP96
      Liquid Alchemy Labs Oil:Bad Wolf, Aqua Vitae Gel:Overdose
      Pheromone Treasures Oil: Latina, Swoon
      Androtics: Oil: A314


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      • Originally posted by Vicki Lee View Post
        I just saw that... I’ve been lurking on there a few times and I’m just still baffled at how there were people paying for them.... *looks at SteveOs prices*

        I don't think anyone can beat SteveO's prices. Their loyal customers don't even get deep discounts like us.

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        • Androtics has a long rap sheet of pissing off their suppliers and passing off molecule shortages on a slow economy, chemists dying off, etc. It's a shame since they had some really amazing products over the years but they dug their own grave and now they can't climb out of it. The rest of the vendors out there (PSX, LAL, Apex, TP, etc) know full well that to remain in business you need to keep your clients and your suppliers happy. Without either of them, you'll lose.

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          • If you look on the evolve sales page you see a comparison
            Pheromone XS Oil: Xist, Cohesion, API, Evolve,SOB, Domination, Desire Me Spray: Xist, Evolve, SOB, Bliss, XSP96
            Liquid Alchemy Labs Oil:Bad Wolf, Aqua Vitae Gel:Overdose
            Pheromone Treasures Oil: Latina, Swoon
            Androtics: Oil: A314


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            • 2000GT
              2000GT commented
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              I'm not sure I understand your point for mentioning this. Doesn't seem relevant to the discussion.

          • my bad i thought it was the other thread talking about tuth and how much stronger evolve is. but i guess its relevant for this thread also to show how much better psx is that whatever the hell androtics is trying to pull
            Pheromone XS Oil: Xist, Cohesion, API, Evolve,SOB, Domination, Desire Me Spray: Xist, Evolve, SOB, Bliss, XSP96
            Liquid Alchemy Labs Oil:Bad Wolf, Aqua Vitae Gel:Overdose
            Pheromone Treasures Oil: Latina, Swoon
            Androtics: Oil: A314


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            • Originally posted by pingu View Post

              That is unbelievable

              What was in your order? Have you followed up on them? Is there an ETA?
              I had some of there putatives like P74, P77, and P96 and DHEA. I really miss them I do admit and could care less really about my loss as I had a lot of points I used so I was not out any money except the $6 in shipping. Who I feel bad for are the ones that spent there own money on a lot of hopes, dreams, and promises to be scammed and taken for a ride. That is what makes me more upset than anything.

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              • Originally posted by justintime469 View Post

                I had some of there putatives like P74, P77, and P96 and DHEA. I really miss them I do admit and could care less really about my loss as I had a lot of points I used so I was not out any money except the $6 in shipping. Who I feel bad for are the ones that spent there own money on a lot of hopes, dreams, and promises to be scammed and taken for a ride. That is what makes me more upset than anything.
                How big was the androtics community? I wonder if their fuck up kept others from engaging with any other Pheromone companies after that? They came out in the early 2000s? Yes? My Pheromone company history knowledge isn’t that expansive.
                PXS (FB): Happiness, DM+, Cohesion, PSEL, Sexy Confidence, Babe, Xist/w, Outspoken, Celebrity, XSP-H, XSR32, XS96, XS86,

                PXS (S): Tease, Temptress, Babe, Bliss


                LPMP (FB): Buttercream Peach w/LAM + Aja, Odalisque w/ Bang (2x bottles), OCCO: Coco Cocoa, Honeyed Love Potion w/ Gotcha
                Alkemia: Burning Roses,
                Elixir of Aphrodite, La Belle Sorcière, Black Roses


                FB = Full Bottle, S = Sample

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                • Originally posted by Vicki Lee View Post

                  How big was the androtics community? I wonder if their fuck up kept others from engaging with any other Pheromone companies after that? They came out in the early 2000s? Yes? My Pheromone company history knowledge isn’t that expansive.
                  There was A LOT more intro posts from what I remember, from their forum in 2014

                  But that's probably because you would've gotten a $25 coupon when you post an intro thread in a new account
                  Ascend Oil (double cops) - Evolve Oil - Taboo Oil & Spray - XiSt Oil & Spray - Cohesion Oil & Spray - Bliss Oil & Spray - Celebrity Spray

                  all cover scented with Pepper & Nutmeg

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                  • Originally posted by Vicki Lee View Post

                    How big was the androtics community? I wonder if their fuck up kept others from engaging with any other Pheromone companies after that? They came out in the early 2000s? Yes? My Pheromone company history knowledge isn’t that expansive.
                    Yes, the Androtics community was I feel the largest. It's where I started out at 19..I'm 28 now.
                    Even SteveO worked with them on the forums..kind of like an executive moderator.
                    Heck I remember almost getting banned by SteveO for a complaint I had on their forum about delivery when I was new there and a teenager lol.
                    You cant even mention other companies names on that forum, and if you sent another companies name in a pm you had to type it like this: p..hero..mone.x..s or else it wouldn't send and be filtered.
                    Just like Justintime469, we really tried helping when we saw things falling apart. But there is a point of no return eventually. Shady is Shady..

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                    • Originally posted by Prettyrickyboi View Post

                      Yes, the Androtics community was I feel the largest. It's where I started out at 19..I'm 28 now.
                      Even SteveO worked with them on the forums..kind of like an executive moderator.
                      Heck I remember almost getting banned by SteveO for a complaint I had on their forum about delivery when I was new there and a teenager lol.
                      You cant even mention other companies names on that forum, and if you sent another companies name in a pm you had to type it like this: p..hero..mone.x..s or else it wouldn't send and be filtered.
                      Just like Justintime469, we really tried helping when we saw things falling apart. But there is a point of no return eventually. Shady is Shady..
                      and i cant beleve a joke of a company is still in business
                      Pheromone XS Oil: Xist, Cohesion, API, Evolve,SOB, Domination, Desire Me Spray: Xist, Evolve, SOB, Bliss, XSP96
                      Liquid Alchemy Labs Oil:Bad Wolf, Aqua Vitae Gel:Overdose
                      Pheromone Treasures Oil: Latina, Swoon
                      Androtics: Oil: A314


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                      • Prettyrickyboi
                        Prettyrickyboi commented
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                        Nah, they had some solid products. They just did not conduct business well.

                    • They did bit now there mixes are being reported as duds and they prices are laughable. They sell most of the products out of old sample tubes. And they even have one of those websites that "announce" everytime a product is sold lol
                      Pheromone XS Oil: Xist, Cohesion, API, Evolve,SOB, Domination, Desire Me Spray: Xist, Evolve, SOB, Bliss, XSP96
                      Liquid Alchemy Labs Oil:Bad Wolf, Aqua Vitae Gel:Overdose
                      Pheromone Treasures Oil: Latina, Swoon
                      Androtics: Oil: A314


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                      • Originally posted by Primross View Post
                        They did bit now there mixes are being reported as duds and they prices are laughable. They sell most of the products out of old sample tubes. And they even have one of those websites that "announce" everytime a product is sold lol
                        lol. I know. I have tried "Hunted" though, and I was impressed.

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                        • Originally posted by Prettyrickyboi View Post

                          lol. I know. I have tried "Hunted" though, and I was impressed.
                          I know but those prices man those prices 😳
                          Pheromone XS Oil: Xist, Cohesion, API, Evolve,SOB, Domination, Desire Me Spray: Xist, Evolve, SOB, Bliss, XSP96
                          Liquid Alchemy Labs Oil:Bad Wolf, Aqua Vitae Gel:Overdose
                          Pheromone Treasures Oil: Latina, Swoon
                          Androtics: Oil: A314


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                          • Prettyrickyboi
                            Prettyrickyboi commented
                            Editing a comment
                            Yep,exactly why I got hunted for free lol

                        • Did it come in one of those tiny sample bottles with a crappy sticker on the side?
                          Pheromone XS Oil: Xist, Cohesion, API, Evolve,SOB, Domination, Desire Me Spray: Xist, Evolve, SOB, Bliss, XSP96
                          Liquid Alchemy Labs Oil:Bad Wolf, Aqua Vitae Gel:Overdose
                          Pheromone Treasures Oil: Latina, Swoon
                          Androtics: Oil: A314


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                          • Prettyrickyboi
                            Prettyrickyboi commented
                            Editing a comment
                            Yes, I think that the only size. But a friend sent I to me.
                            And I think it was either printed on the bottle or an transparent sticker with black and white artwork

                        • I saw pingus pics of the recent androtics mercy and they looked terrible
                          Pheromone XS Oil: Xist, Cohesion, API, Evolve,SOB, Domination, Desire Me Spray: Xist, Evolve, SOB, Bliss, XSP96
                          Liquid Alchemy Labs Oil:Bad Wolf, Aqua Vitae Gel:Overdose
                          Pheromone Treasures Oil: Latina, Swoon
                          Androtics: Oil: A314


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                          • Well, it's deffo gone to hell over there. Their once saying of "We'll never get rid of our forums, you'll always be able to access your journals, etc, etc...." was just pure bullsh*t, as they have been replaced by a clothing website (draped-upDOTcom), lol!! The Conjurator's journal and justintime469's journal were the two things I probably looked at more, than writing and reporting in my own; and I started out there in October 2010 when pricing was ridiculously low, deals came in every week; and the number of freebies that came bundled in your package without any knowledge that it was coming was just plain crazy!! There were orders at times that I received far more than what I had ordered - how did they make money?!! I was clever and downloaded my journal last March, before everything went to hell, not because it contained reports and experiences on AD products, but all the findings on other products (Both mone and non-mone products); and it became more of a personal diary to me of my life, kinda had a feeling it would vanish; and it did!!

                            That said, in the past week, someone called 'Olivia' has been sending me the 'early adopters' email that we were all told 200 of us 'regular reporters' would get, as we were being transferred to the 'new' labs site to continue our support on the research on the new products! I think we all know by now, that that never happened, lol, especially with the loss of their forums. I do know for one, you could never ask any questions, especially about deliveries on the forums. You'd be murdered from a great height by the staff if you did (Even be temporary banned from posting in the store); and to look out for the newer members asking, we, the other members would attempt to advise to ask via that zen helpdesk email, which would take forever to get a response. Apparently time zones were the blame!!

                            So, this was the first email.......

                            Wednesday 23/01/2019

                            Hi ***,

                            I'm about to make a thousands of people very happy!
                            We’ve now added Ammo to the shop under the name “Classic Ammo”.
                            It’s a little funny. Ammo is one of the things people ask me for the most, yet it’s one of the few things we were not authorized to carry.

                            In the re-structuring of Androtics, Ammo was licensed by a separate marketing company. Dan had to obtain special permission from them to carry the traditional formulas.

                            New Ammo has been reworked for beginners, and while we’d love to carry for our own new visitors, it probably wouldn’t be of as much interest to early adopters like you.

                            As with the first 200 bottles Turn Up the Heat, right now you get double for your money.
                            You get one bottle processed in the classical way most colognes and perfumes are processed, and the other with our newfangled 2019-era cold process.
                            The new cold process has many benefits including particle size reduction, lack of metal ion contamination, and a whole bunch of other neat stuff science nerds love. It’s all very futuristic and cool. Very “2019”.

                            Both will be great, but one bottle should be better.
                            One is marked A, and the other is marked B. After you use each one a few times, let us know which you like the best and why. Michael will incorporate what he learns into new versions and products.

                            You double your pleasure, double your fun… with something wayyyy better than gum :-) Your favorite version of Ammo

                            The version of Ammo people request the most is v1.01. This is what’s being produced now.

                            There’s something a little bit special about v1.01. It already incorporated a small amount of one the priming pheromone Michael felt would be appropriate at the time. That’s what separates it from other versions, and is likely why this version became a favorite over the years.

                            As with Turn Up The Heat and Hunter, if you’d like a much larger gob of priming pheromones added you can get it with the new 2019 edition of Classic Ammo Doubletake Edition.

                            The Doubletake Edition extends the time and scope of your first impression, and with some people, lets you enjoy a first impression all over again. Cool!
                            Priming molecules can also help cut through the noise and today's political fads, allowing women to react more honestly and primordially.
                            Again, you get double for your money once more. An A and B version. As simple as an eye exam.

                            The test for this Doubletake Edition is a little bit different. Both will use the same type of processing, but the priming mix changes in each.
                            Your testing method is the same. Just use each one a few times, on the same spots (we recommend the back of the hands), then let us know which you enjoy more and why.

                            It’s great to crowd source feedback for these types of the attraction mixes, as it’s mostly men in their 20s that use attraction mixes every day. Michael’s daily focus is more on social, business, family and relationship building type mixes.

                            URL REMOVED TO AMMO PAGE

                            If you get both packs, you can save an additional $10. Your early adopter coupon for this week lets you save even more. You’ll get 4 bottles total in that pack. The 4 pack is expected to ship Thursday at earliest.


                            Costs for early adopters are much lower than reported on the website. Classic Ammo runs as low as 26 cents per use, with Ammo Doubletake Edition as low as 52 cents per use.

                            You early adopter code for this week is:

                            EARLY*****

                            It’s also been embedded in the links above, and should show up automatically when you go to checkout.

                            PS —

                            Here’s our shipping schedule:

                            Classic Ammo v1.01 — in stock, ships Tuesday

                            Classic Ammo Doubletake Edition is arriving from Seattle on Wednesday. Expect to ship it Thursday. If we receive a rush of orders, as we did with Turn Up The Heat, that can push some packages till Friday.

                            During last year’s holiday season, we started to ship Saturday and Sunday, too, and haven’t stopped. As long as there’s demand, I hear we’ll probably keep this up.

                            Cutoff times for orders are 7pm Pacific Monday through Friday and 5pm on Saturday and Sunday. That applies to both free and priority shipping.

                            The cutoff time for USPS Express is 3pm Monday through Sunday.

                            Express is 1 day to most major metro areas, and 2 days to some remote areas. What’s great is that Express delivers 7 days a week, whereas FedEx and UPS are generally 5 days a week.
                            Yeah, I clicked the link and saw a discount on their main website. Thing is, I went to their website from work directly; and ALSO, got the discount without using the email link, hmmm!!

                            Email #2 dropped in my inbox during the early hours of this morning. Strange thing, this weeks discount code just so happens to be the same as last weeks!! You guessed it too, you don't actually need to click on the link provided to get the discount, it's there when you arrive!!

                            Friday 01/02/2019

                            Hiya ***,

                            Happy Thursday! First month of 2019 is in the rearview and the weekend is just on the horizon. Hope you're feeling good!

                            I’ve caught some more questions related to the Classic Ammo relaunch.

                            This is the second batch of questions. I’ll be focusing on Valentine’s Day right after this, so I don’t think there’s time to do a third.

                            Kyle from Hawai’i asks: I’m a single guy playing the field. What’s better for my situation, Ammo or Turn Up The Heat?

                            Ammo was designed as a general purpose attractant, whereas Turn up The Heat (TUTH) was designed for escalation and intensity of romantic encouenters.

                            Ammo is a good general formula to raise your “sexy” and give you that halo of masculine sexiness. Ammo, like Hunted, gives you an easy to work with attractive vibe.

                            Classic Ammo also smells exactly like a cologne you’d pick up in any good department store, which helps.
                            If you want a general purpose attractant, it’ll probably serve you better than TUTH.
                            TUTH screams “DTF” (Down to F…iddle around naked).
                            You wouldn’t want to wear TUTH to church, my friend! (although some daring souls do)

                            TUTH is more appropriate when it’s time to “close the deal” with someone you’ve gone on a few dates with, or when you want to turn up the Intensity of physical intimacy with your partner.

                            Allan from the Southwest US asks: Can I get a 30 mL bottle of Ammo for under $100?

                            Yep. Much less than that, actually.

                            It may not come in the type of physical bottle some want, but you’re getting 30ml and you even get more uses.

                            I don’t think a lot of people compute the value they get with their early adopter privileges (extra bottles and discounts), so I’ll do it for you.

                            Right now, if you order 3 of the basic Classic Ammo 2-packs, you get that for quite a bit less than $100. After the early adopter discount, it’s $64.38. $35 less than $100.

                            You also get a bonus of 20% more doses than you would with a 30ml, which reduces costs even more. 240 doses for 6 5ml bottles vs 200 in one 30ml bottle.

                            So that’s 240 applications for a younger user, meaning 26 cents for an Ammo enhanced day. The bulk of male users use 2 sprays, so that gives 120 days of Ammo goodness, which means 53 cents for an ammo filled day.

                            I’ll note that when I was a teen, not too long ago, I could sometimes buy candy bars for 53 cents on sale. I can’t anymore. I haven’t seen a deal like that in years.

                            The experience of it lasted maybe 10 to 15 minutes if really paced myself. On the other hand, I had friends who’d gobble the whole thing up in one bite.

                            Now a genetically modified version of chocolate bars I used to like cost me about a dollar. Some stores even ask for more.
                            I wish “genetically engineered” meant it was better tasting. Maybe it will someday, but for now the genetic modifications mostly mean that more pesticides are used. If anything, the quality of chocolate has gone down while prices have gone up (This linked to a page about candy wrappers, which was an affiliate link via the email. This is the actual webpage with no affiliate link attached.......
                            candywrapperarchiveDOTcom/candy-collector/candy-prices-over-the-years/
                            ).

                            If I dare to buy a classic bar closer to what I used to get, I'd have to go to Whole Foods or another health shop where it costs many times that.

                            So in this day and age, a 26 to 53 cent dose of super fancy, almost sci-fi woman attracting spray that lasts for 5 to 10 hours seems like a massively good deal in comparison. Especially considering that our ingredients are still made by some the world's brightest PhD chemists, who increase quality over time.

                            And, of course, if you buy a woman even one drink at a bar or restaurant — that can easily cost as much as many weeks worth of life enhancing formulas. The cost of dating make my candy comparison look like nothing.
                            If you missed the first Q&A session, find it here:

                            URL REMOVED TO AMMO PAGE QUESTIONS URL REMOVED TO AMMO PAGE

                            Your Early Adopter pricing is embedded in that link. Otherwise you can enter this at checkout: EARLY*****

                            Next up are formulas for Valentine’s Day. I’m personally the most excited about these, so I’ll let you know when they’re out!

                            We’re mostly focusing on generating cuddly, warm feelings you can share with your girlfriend or wife. Feelings that are as sweet or sweeter than candy. The kind of thing most women live and die for in a relationship. They present a real opportunity to give her what she most craves.

                            None of the Valentine’s Day mixes are androstenone based, so if that’s mostly what you want, I’d recommend you look the current offerings of Ammo, Turn Up The Heat, Hunter and Hunted. That’s quite a line up, and I’m sure there’s something there that will produce the results you want.

                            As always, I'll be around on chat most afternoons and evenings Pacific Time, so feel free to chat me up with your questions or feedback.

                            See you soon!

                            Olivia
                            So, it's taken them since September 2017 to send me this 'early adopters' email, lol, better late than never I guess. Only thing I'd likely get on there is the TUTH, and even then, that's for my neroli scent fix, that I so dearly miss from the endless use if iShine over 10 years. If Evolve came in Neroli, there'd be limited stocks, lol, I've been trialling that one over the past few months.

                            Who else has had these adopter emails?

                            Justintime469, I can't believe you're still waiting, omg!! You and I both ordered and began waiting at the same time, but they sent me my order in march 2018; and even that didn't contain what I ordered! They sent me several PM's to pick for what they did have in stock, still didn't get what I picked, lol!! I've got an endless supply of TOGO's of ammo summer, a smidge of A314 1.32A Akuto and 3 quarters full bottle of iShine oil (Which doesn't give me anywhere near the same effect as the spray version used to; and probably why I've hardly touched it!), which they shipped to me as a "Sorry for the 6 month delay!!"

                            I guess, what started out as a good company, really has killed itself off. It would seem that if you comment on their chat box on their website or reply to any email, what you say is gonna turn up on the website or feature in the next email! Labs product range is tiny and limited to what it used to be, more aimed towards oils than sprays - I prefer sprays myself, one of the many reasons I'm here trying out the huge range of fabulous products.

                            NH.

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                          • Originally posted by Night_Hawk View Post
                            The Conjurator's journal and justintime469's journal were the two things I probably looked at more, than writing and reporting in my own
                            Thanks for that tribute Night Hawk, I wasn't expecting that and I appreciate it. My journal was in all-time top-10 (or at least top-15) most viewed over there. And no, I did not get an invite from the top-secret squad. They once said they would give priority to the US-base before foreigners like me, however, at least during initial phases. Journal went to hell. I had everything copied to a Word document luckily. My 500+$ gift certifs also went to hell btw, so I ain't shelling out a single dollar for now.
                            Last edited by Conjurator; 02-01-2019, 01:06 PM.

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                            • I bit the bullet and ordered ammo and shine about a week or two. Ammo isn't the same but is still decent, and shine is a TOTAL DUD! I'm staring as far away from Androtics as I can. RUN DONT WALK!
                              Pheromone Toolbox:

                              PheromoneXS: Xist, Ascend, Cohesion, Evolve, Bliss, Celebrity, Limitless, Thinker, Connections, Odyssey, APi
                              Androtics: Ammo, Shine v2
                              LAL: Wolf, Aqua Vitae, Bad Wolf, Overdose, Voodoo, Wolf, Hypnotica
                              HAX: Holy Grail, LadyKiller, 9+O, Wingman Black, C4
                              True Pheromones: True Love, True Opener
                              Alpha Dream: Glace
                              APEX: Core, M3x, Titan, Imprint, Orbital

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                            • Prettyrickyboi I have not tried Hunted, but I've lost a lot of faith in Androtics over the years so I'm skeptical to try any new product lines. Especially since they've completely ruined old brands like Alpha 314 and Shine.
                              Pheromone Toolbox:

                              PheromoneXS: Xist, Ascend, Cohesion, Evolve, Bliss, Celebrity, Limitless, Thinker, Connections, Odyssey, APi
                              Androtics: Ammo, Shine v2
                              LAL: Wolf, Aqua Vitae, Bad Wolf, Overdose, Voodoo, Wolf, Hypnotica
                              HAX: Holy Grail, LadyKiller, 9+O, Wingman Black, C4
                              True Pheromones: True Love, True Opener
                              Alpha Dream: Glace
                              APEX: Core, M3x, Titan, Imprint, Orbital

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