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  • Phaethon
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    Originally posted by Coconut
    it seems it affects more the obese people
    Of course because obese people always have health issues.

    Originally posted by Coconut
    hubby is at home again next week and on friday will be told if he will becom unemployed!
    I really hope the French government will help the people like the German government does.
    A 750 Billion Euro Law passed the German government yesterday, mainly to help keeping the economy alive and for the companies so they don't need to fire their employees. But also for many other aspects regarding social and economical stability.
    It will take Germany ages to get out of the depts but still better than building a new economical structure from zero.

    Originally posted by Coconut
    start buying tonic water it contains quinine, they are saying that the new drug for malaria should work, my parents always drank this in africa against malaria!
    Unfortunately it doesn't help with Covid 19. Malaria is a whole different thing.

    The future will be a tough time for all of us.

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  • Coconut
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    start buying tonic water it contains quinine, they are saying that the new drug for malaria should work, my parents always drank this in africa against malaria!

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  • Coconut
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    we sent our masks for free!
    their tests are rubbish and don't work, give you a false positive and negative result!
    people that are positive are getting negative in hospital and die!
    I see the US is now taking over Italy tonight, Italy had a 1000 deaths today in one day!
    seems it affects more the obese people, all the pics and films in the icu plus the tv are saying the obese are more prone!
    after this it will be famine which i have already said tonight in the english papers in uk they are saying that if people don't stop stocking there will be famine, so it's the virus or famine that kill you!
    hubby is at home again next week and on friday will be told if he will becom unemployed!

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  • Phaethon
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    Just watching a report on German TV and Doctors say meanwhile the virus is attacking the 20 to 40 years old with terrible results, all of them are on intensive care meanwhile fighting to survive.

    Germany is now taking patients from Italy and France because even France with its good health system is on the edge with personnel and equipment.

    USA is meanwhile sad leader in this schedule.

    Today in Italy every 4 minutes one human died.

    It is one thing to fake statistics but lying to its own people, how hazardous this virus is, is a crime.

    This is my opinion about this topic.

    I've put myself under semi quarantine 2 weeks ago. I go to work to fulfill my job duties and after a hard working day I go home and stay there. After about 12 hours of work I'm too tired for anything else anyway.

    Cheers guys and stay healthy

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  • Coconut
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    Our country sent masks to china when they were dying on their knees in the hopsital and now there are none on our country and believe it or not the chinese are now SELLING back their masks to other countrys that need it!

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  • Coconut
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    Except they are all being infected a second time as if you have it once you can have it again!
    and the wet markets have all started up again in china!

  • Phaethon
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    Originally posted by Coconut
    i knew it was very lethal as i never believe the chinese and i had reason to
    That's it my dear, that's it.
    The Chinese would sell their souls to protect their economy!!

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  • Phaethon
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    A 16 years old died in my Country today because of the virus

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  • Coconut
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    it affects all ages and not just the old.
    oh and the tests for testing are crap, china sold these testing things which are crap they are positive negative and are useless!
    india and the US gave china the masks and equipement they needed in hospitals for personel, now they are SELLING BACK to other countrys there stuff, come on guys wake up!

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  • Coconut
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    I believed since jan that this was very lethal, i tried to tell people around me but they all said common flu, i knew it was very lethal as i never believe the chinese and i had reason to, now i'm glad i'm right, they lied, their dead bodies are way higher than they made out, pity most governments never took it serioulsy and just believed what they heard from the chinese, now they are lacking azmut suits, masks, oxygen and every else!
    i think when you see from what happens in one country you need to take it seriously and know there will be an outbreak and prepare!

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  • Coconut
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    except a 19 year old just died in our country because of the virus

  • Muestereate
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    I double check EVERYTHING the CDC says since its become a political tool but here is their latest release in the US.

    What is added by this report?

    This first preliminary description of outcomes among patients with COVID-19 in the United States indicates that fatality was highest in persons aged ≥85, ranging from 10% to 27%, followed by 3% to 11% among persons aged 65-84 years, 1% to 3% among persons aged 55-64 years, <1% among persons aged 20-54 years, and no fatalities among persons aged ≤19 years.

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  • Muestereate
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    i will stay open to other reports statistics andf the like. worst number I have seen is 50 percent that need a ventilator don't get off the ventilator

  • Phaethon
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    Originally posted by Muestereate
    Last I saw the mortality for old people, over 80 was about 14-18 percent. You may want to look into that again.
    This is the percentage from China but this percentage is not valid for the rest of the world. You need to take into consideration that Asians have a much healthier lifestyle compared to western people. And the Chinese Government practiced the total shutdown super fast. My brother is living in China and he told me he has never ever seen an entire state shutting down so fast, it was literally the next day everything was closed down and life was banned from the streets. Of course this you could not see on TV and btw the percentage mentioned by the Chinese Government is rubbish my brother said. He saw the unfiltered truth!
    This is what I mean with fake news!!
    Take a look at Netherlands, Belgium or UK they thought this virus is just normal contagious like a flu and mortality for old people would be within the range you mentioned and now they are in big fu**ing serious trouble. People are dying like flies in a closed room filled with pesticide and it will get worse because every change you will realize after 10 to 14 days. After that period you can decide whether it was a good or a bad decision.

    What do you think is the reason Germany has a complete shutdown on nursery homes, retirement homes, hospitals, etc.. Family members aren't allowed to visit them. Even I'm not allowed to get into the building and it's me who comes with the meds they are urgently waiting for!!

    Guys do yourself a favour and don't believe such a low mortality fake news shit, for old people this virus is lethal. And to everybody who does, well, ...than it's your own fault.
    Sorry for such harsh words but wake up, the entire world is shutting down and people still believe this virus is not very contagious??
    This virus is highly contagious!

    What makes this virus so extremely dangerous is the fact that the virus seems to be far more intelligent than the majority of the possible hosts

    This is the worst that happened to the world since the plaque in the middle ages. This is what I believe!!

    Originally posted by Coconut
    so far here in french metropol we haven't gotten to the high prices yet!
    Same in Germany, all the prices haven't changed and they will not rise. The German government has more than one eye on this. Ebay Germany has blocked all overpriced offers and if you try again you will risk a lifetime ban.

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  • Coconut
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    Originally posted by Coconut
    so here they are saying that the anti malaria drug chloroquine helps people in ICU, but people can also try tonic water which is what my parents drank in africa to help them combat malaria, it contains quinine, just a thought and help!
    will take some zinc tonight!
    have psy over the phone tommorow he knows the last 3 days have been really bad with nightmares 3 in one night on the virus, so he wants me to get back to my hard core drugs which i try and stay away from, but sometimes things are soo overwelming that my senses are on overload and i can't, i normally just take them for a few days and give up, they work for being calm but i tend to put on weight and also feel that i loose the real me, like if i wasn't on them and someone got me annoyed i would say exactly what i thought and think but with the meds they are like a straight jacket and stop me saying what i really feel and think!

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  • Muestereate
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    I'm pretty good with wipes, My mom caught a bug last year and I stocked up on medical grade Clorox and industrial sized wipes. they are rough on hands, I just need to get in the habit.

    Bleach kills the really nasty stuff better than alcohol I think. Breaks down the dna and rna. A ton cheaper too. Like clorox is a couple bucks a gallon, but they charge many times that for alcohol unless you buy it by the barrel.

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  • Muestereate
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    we had a person die from overdose of that but quinine water should be ok. Personally I take a bit of zinc everyday, cuts colds and flus in half. I'm hoping it makes it tougher for corona too.

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