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  • Muestereate
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    Spain, possibly more fake news.

    https://www.gstatic.com/covid19/mobi..._Report_en.pdf

    Spain is interesting because they cut out travel to parks as well. Looking at the park grapghs, 3 eeks ago they closed parks and here we are 3 weeks later and i read in another aricle that Spain thinks it is at the peak of the curve with steady for the last three days and only a minute difference for the two days prior to that.

    If Spain indeed cut their curve down to only three weeks, i think the difference in the park graphs may give weight to my hunch. Our other countries curves are at least double that... and more I suspect in the US.

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  • Muestereate
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    Originally posted by Phaethon
    This may be the case in USA and other country but this does not apply to Germany because it is AGAINST GERMAN LAW to track mobile phones or tabletts, even if the person agreed it will stay illegal. It is not even allowed to German Government to do so. Hence, I don't know where Google claims to have the data from but for sure it is not German data. The Google data for Germany is faked!

    By the way, travel within the federal state is allowed. Travel to another federal state in Germany is not allowed. Parks, playgrounds, Schools, Restaurants, Barbers and everything else (except food stores, supermarket and pharmacie) is still closed here. If you violate the current laws the fine is up to €25,000 or prison.

    If you don't want to become infected avoid close distance to other people. I would avoid crowded places anyway. If you don't live in a city and there aren't other people around why not going out for a walk. If you live in a city I would nail my butt down to the sofa and not leave the house till this desaster is over.
    Well here's your fake news then

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  • Muestereate
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    the effect just kind of Trickled down all the way to healthcare. This is trickle down economics.

  • Muestereate
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    free market/demand driven. No demand. After WW2 we kept our industries tooled up for a fast resart that never appeared so they abandoned preparation and replaced it with military prevention.

  • MostHoly
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    You are so sweet. Glad you seem to be doing well also dear. Stay healthy. happy and safe!

  • Coconut
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    Originally posted by Muestereate
    I have done a quick scan og Google mobility data. They track everybody's locations that has given them permission. They can tell where we are going and how effective the different stay at home orders around the world. On funny thing I saw is that If I lay down coron virus cases and check the dates and scroll backwards and look at all the data that google has published. There seems to be a strong correlation of people going to parks a couple weeks before hand. This concerns me because we are being told to stay at home but actually encouraged to go out to parks if we maintain distance. I didn't see increased travel like I thought. I didn't see increased work or restaurants etc but people around th world really started to go to parks about mid February.

    I'm looking at USA right now and some of our states are showing a 50 percent upsurge in going to parks. Those states aren't showing any sign of slowing down on new cases yet! It may be the new place to go but that's exactly where I don't want to be right now. DO not be lured by the safety of the outdoors and parks, They may not be any more immune that workplaces or restaurants. I'm not sure what this means, its just numbers. Perhaps more will reveal itself as i go.

    Here's France Coconut. https://www.gstatic.com/covid19/mobility/2020-03-29_FR_Mobility_Report_en.pdf


    Here's germany Phaethon, same think. look at parks




    where i am it's not even mentioned on there!
    people don't go to parks where i am, we are allowed 1 hour out each day or your fined!

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  • Phaethon
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    Originally posted by Muestereate
    They track everybody's locations that has given them permission.
    This may be the case in USA and other country but this does not apply to Germany because it is AGAINST GERMAN LAW to track mobile phones or tabletts, even if the person agreed it will stay illegal. It is not even allowed to German Government to do so. Hence, I don't know where Google claims to have the data from but for sure it is not German data. The Google data for Germany is faked!

    By the way, travel within the federal state is allowed. Travel to another federal state in Germany is not allowed. Parks, playgrounds, Schools, Restaurants, Barbers and everything else (except food stores, supermarket and pharmacie) is still closed here. If you violate the current laws the fine is up to €25,000 or prison.

    If you don't want to become infected avoid close distance to other people. I would avoid crowded places anyway. If you don't live in a city and there aren't other people around why not going out for a walk. If you live in a city I would nail my butt down to the sofa and not leave the house till this desaster is over.

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  • Muestereate
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    I have done a quick scan og Google mobility data. They track everybody's locations that has given them permission. They can tell where we are going and how effective the different stay at home orders around the world. On funny thing I saw is that If I lay down coron virus cases and check the dates and scroll backwards and look at all the data that google has published. There seems to be a strong correlation of people going to parks a couple weeks before hand. This concerns me because we are being told to stay at home but actually encouraged to go out to parks if we maintain distance. I didn't see increased travel like I thought. I didn't see increased work or restaurants etc but people around th world really started to go to parks about mid February.

    I'm looking at USA right now and some of our states are showing a 50 percent upsurge in going to parks. Those states aren't showing any sign of slowing down on new cases yet! It may be the new place to go but that's exactly where I don't want to be right now. DO not be lured by the safety of the outdoors and parks, They may not be any more immune that workplaces or restaurants. I'm not sure what this means, its just numbers. Perhaps more will reveal itself as i go.

    Here's France Coconut. https://www.gstatic.com/covid19/mobility/2020-03-29_FR_Mobility_Report_en.pdf


    Here's germany Phaethon, same think. look at parks





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  • Coconut
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    Originally posted by Phaethon
    Well Silvia, you talk about united. I just needed to triple check the following information whether it is fake news but it's true.

    The Trump administration has confiscated 200.000 face masks at Bangkok Airport today with destination Berlin/Germany, the masks should by now already be in USA.
    This has been confirmed today by Mr. Geisler a Berlin Senator.
    The masks were ordered on February 25th in China.

    I couldn't believe it when I heard it on the radio today that's why I triple checked it when I got home, I thought this was a bad late April joke but it's true!!
    This masks have been ordered by Hospitals and nursing homes to keep up the work and to protect the old people but also for paramedics and the police.

    Poor poor America, now the devil has dropped his mask and shows his ugly grimace! Now Trump shows the entire world what and who he really is. I can tell you guys America will get in serious trouble in case this man will stay your leader for another period.
    This guy is not only destroying Americas image in the world he is also pissing at every leg he can find. Yesterday it was the French leg he pissed at and today it's the German one. Two of the leaders in Europe - who will be next??
    Some of the German politicians already said they will keep this in mind when it comes to possible help actions for the USA in the future. And I'm confident the French do think similar.
    Even Canada is now checking if this happened to one of their shipments as well they are missing.

    I am upset and very disappointed
    Such a poor behaviour from such a great nation.
    I told you guys to get the soldiers out to protect stock, i could see this crap coming!
    i'm astounded but to me both countrys are to blame, in the paper today, china is now selling to the highest bidders!
    our nation are also very disappointed, but with a name like Trump you can only play poker lol

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  • Coconut
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    Originally posted by Phaethon
    Well Silvia, you talk about united. I just needed to triple check the following information whether it is fake news but it's true.

    The Trump administration has confiscated 200.000 face masks at Bangkok Airport today with destination Berlin/Germany, the masks should by now already be in USA.
    This has been confirmed today by Mr. Geisler a Berlin Senator.
    The masks were ordered on February 25th in China.

    I couldn't believe it when I heard it on the radio today that's why I triple checked it when I got home, I thought this was a bad late April joke but it's true!!
    This masks have been ordered by Hospitals and nursing homes to keep up the work and to protect the old people but also for paramedics and the police.

    Poor poor America, now the devil has dropped his mask and shows his ugly grimace! Now Trump shows the entire world what and who he really is. I can tell you guys America will get in serious trouble in case this man will stay your leader for another period.
    This guy is not only destroying Americas image in the world he is also pissing at every leg he can find. Yesterday it was the French leg he pissed at and today it's the German one. Two of the leaders in Europe - who will be next??
    Some of the German politicians already said they will keep this in mind when it comes to possible help actions for the USA in the future. And I'm confident the French do think similar.
    Even Canada is now checking if this happened to one of their shipments as well they are missing.

    I am upset and very disappointed
    Such a poor behaviour from such a great nation.
    I'm with you here and also very disappointed and i think it won't be a 3M face mask he will need but more like an umberella!
    Trump is now looking for a cure from other countrys, but bare with me when he finds it, he will keep it and not share.

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  • Muestereate
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    The Orange one told 3m they couldn't sell masks to canada. 3m refused on humanitarian grounds to comply

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  • Phaethon
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    Originally posted by Silvia
    Its that time that allllll the world must be united
    Well Silvia, you talk about united. I just needed to triple check the following information whether it is fake news but it's true.

    The Trump administration has confiscated 200.000 face masks at Bangkok Airport today with destination Berlin/Germany, the masks should by now already be in USA.
    This has been confirmed today by Mr. Geisler a Berlin Senator.
    The masks were ordered on February 25th in China.

    I couldn't believe it when I heard it on the radio today that's why I triple checked it when I got home, I thought this was a bad late April joke but it's true!!
    This masks have been ordered by Hospitals and nursing homes to keep up the work and to protect the old people but also for paramedics and the police.

    Poor poor America, now the devil has dropped his mask and shows his ugly grimace! Now Trump shows the entire world what and who he really is. I can tell you guys America will get in serious trouble in case this man will stay your leader for another period.
    This guy is not only destroying Americas image in the world he is also pissing at every leg he can find. Yesterday it was the French leg he pissed at and today it's the German one. Two of the leaders in Europe - who will be next??
    Some of the German politicians already said they will keep this in mind when it comes to possible help actions for the USA in the future. And I'm confident the French do think similar.
    Even Canada is now checking if this happened to one of their shipments as well they are missing.

    I am upset and very disappointed
    Such a poor behaviour from such a great nation.

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  • Muestereate
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    I'm learning several lessons everyday This situation is propelling me down paths I normally wouldn't have chosen and there are new things to see. I hope the end of the road is ok. We'll just have to see. I suspect the path will be rocky but so far it hasn't been all that bad.

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  • Silvia
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    Its that time that allllll the world must be united.Lets hope everything shall pass and we all can learn a lesson from this

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  • Muestereate
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    I see Russia sent us medical supplies today. It is getting weird with all these countries shuffling supplies to us. The exponential rise may be near a peak. it has been level at 75 thousand new case a day for three days straight and we had a couple at 65k before that.. I slight ray of sunshine in an otherwise fruesome set of statistics. A few other countries are starting to show signs of leveling off but I am not trusting anything that looks like a decline quite yet. France kinda looks like they have a big city thats not complying. Multiple exponential curves but weird spikes that look to be following their own curve within the major curve.

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  • Coconut
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    so get yourselves washable masks that you can wear and disinfect and wash afterwards, wear gloves touching trollys in shops and do the same disinfect and wash afterwards, take them off before coming home, disinfect and then wash in the machineit's SARS 2 virus so take all the precautions

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  • Coconut
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    I just hope other countrys like yourselves if they need masks and order from china take all the steps they can to get them safetly!
    even if they need to send in soldiers to protect the goods, seems the chinese like to make a profit on this when other countrys sent help!

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  • Phaethon
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    This was in the German news today, how embarrassing for the Trump administration. People here are very upset about this poor behaviour and they won't forget this!

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  • Coconut
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    Originally posted by Phaethon
    Yup and they both have the same aims. I'm pretty sure when the time comes the french will help us as good as their possibilities will allow it
    I really hope soo, i'cant say they will for sure as you never know with polotics, sometimes they change their mind and do wierd stuff, but i'm grateful for yours guys help!
    let's hope that we can be just as helpful!

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  • Phaethon
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    Originally posted by Coconut
    I think they normally would do because Macron and Merkell seem to get on well
    Yup and they both have the same aims. I'm pretty sure when the time comes the french will help us as good as their possibilities will allow it

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