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  • Coconut
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    Originally posted by Phaethon
    Every country has the same issues because no one was prepared for this pandemic and I agree with you, this behavior is unacceptable.


    Thank to our very good health system we are not on the edge yet and have a lot intensive care beds free. It would be a shame not to use them and help our allies. Today Germany took more patients from Italy even knowing that we are running out of masks and other protection equipment we urgently need.
    I hope we will receive the same sort of help when we need it.
    Anyways, it is this times when you realize who your friends are
    I hope that France can help you guys back when you need it, i can't say for my Governement only myself!
    I really hope that they are grateful and help out!
    I think they normally would do because Macron and Merkell seem to get on well, lets hope that my country can help you guys too, when the time comes and you need it!
    big hugs

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  • Phaethon
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    Originally posted by Coconut
    I know the states have their issues too for masks and stuff...
    Every country has the same issues because no one was prepared for this pandemic and I agree with you, this behavior is unacceptable.

    Originally posted by Coconut
    ...i'm soo glad that Germany has really helped France for their patients!
    Thank to our very good health system we are not on the edge yet and have a lot intensive care beds free. It would be a shame not to use them and help our allies. Today Germany took more patients from Italy even knowing that we are running out of masks and other protection equipment we urgently need.
    I hope we will receive the same sort of help when we need it.
    Anyways, it is this times when you realize who your friends are

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  • Coconut
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    Originally posted by Phaethon

    Wow, I'm speachless
    Me too i'm astounded, it's in times like this when you really know who your allies are, i'm soo glad that Germany has really helped France for their patients!
    I know the states have their issues too for masks and stuff but to go so low and do this kind of thing is beyond me, nothing stops them from putting in their own order for masks, instead of doing what they did!
    stealing from another country even though they paid a higher price is non understandable

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  • Phaethon
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    Wow, I'm speachless

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  • Coconut
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    The US bought out a planeload of Chinese-made face masks right on the tarmac just as the haul of the much needed protective gear was about to set off for France, the head of a French region told RT.

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  • Coconut
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    just found something really annoying tonight, a plane full of masks for france was dettered by the americans, they told the chinese they would pay higher for them so they have gone to the americans, each to their own as we can now see!

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  • Coconut
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    china is now back to work and governing the world while all the other countrys drop to their knees due to virus and economy!
    even the test kits are contaminated!

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  • Phaethon
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    Just saw in the news that every 6 minutes a NYC citizen dies. I can't believe USA were so unprepared, why is that? How come USA didn't take the threat more serious? USA has seen other countries collapsing and I really thought the politicians would know better.
    Horrible news!

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  • Quiet&Dreamy
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    Originally posted by MostHoly
    Here is information I put together for friends and family regarding herbal and supplemental immune boosters:

    The focus is on compounds, plants, vitamins and herbs that are easily available to the general population.
    Please note: for the US I'm happy to share the online stores I trust and use to buy these supplements and vitamins. Just not sure if I'm allowed to post them here and I want to be respectful of forum rules. In case it's not a problem just let me know and I'll add the links to the stores.
    Of course everyone should double check with their doctors to make sure the compounds, vitamins and herbs below are compatible with them.

    Here is a good post on vitamins and herbs, the basics you want to stock up on for sure to boost immunity right now:


    https://www.avap.life/super-boost-your-immune-system/


    Please note: in case of an infection you can high dose (between 10,000 to even 20,000 mg a day) Vitamin C, you'd just want to divide it up in 1,000 or 2,000 mg doses given hourly or every two hours. Ideally you can get intravenous Vitamin C. The Chinese have, as of February, officially acknowledged the value of Vitamin C therapy with regards to coronavirus.
    IV Vitamin C is first choice (up to 20,000 mg a day) but may not be readily available for home use as it must be administered.
    Liposomal is second best choice, then sprays and other oral supplements.

    You can also high dose Vitamin A for, say 3 days, if an infection is present. When you are sick, your body uses up Vitamin A like crazy, so it will not cause toxicity in the liver. And it is an amazing virus killer.

    Allicin (contained in garlic) and Quercetin (contained in yellow onions) are very protective as well.

    Here are the compounds that specifically target a viral infection from three angles. All the compounds have been substantiated via studies, the information is available online with some research.

    These here are helpful in inhibiting viral reproduction / 3 CL Protease:

    Forskolin

    Calendula extract

    Rosemary extract as well as rosemary (the spice), good to get and use both

    Magnolia extract or capsules

    Licorice Root extract (or capsules)

    Birch bark extract

    Cytokine Storm inhibitors

    Please read up about cytokine storm here, this is vital to know: https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0227142250.htm
    These supplements are good to take just for health maintenance in general. If infection does occur it is good to high dose to manage cytokine storm issues.

    Vitamin C

    Magnesium Chloride (400 mg daily)

    Vitamin D3

    Zinc

    Selenium

    B-Complex

    Curcumin (especially in combination with antivirals)

    Mast Cell Degranulation (this is a complex issue, please google if not familiar with it, here is one link that explains it in not too "sciency" language, in a nutshell, you want to inhibit Mast Cell Degranulation which can be caused by an infection with a virus and worsens the all over state of a patient, in the following are compounds that are helpful
    https://www.aaaai.org/conditions-and...onditions/mcas )


    Quercetin (as a supplement or found in yellow onions)

    Luteolin (found, for example in rosemary)

    Astragalus root

    Garlic


    If you feel overwhelmed by the above and want to focus only on a handful of compounds I would advise Vitamin C, Vitamin D, Rosemary extract and Birch Bark extract.

    Again, please make sure to double check any of the above with yoru primary healthcare provider to verify that there are no counter indications with medications or health conditions.

    Stay safe and healthy and happy. Blessings to all.

    I was going to post in your journal to see how you're doing as you didn't seem to have been on for a while! Glad you're back and seem to be doing okay.

    This is excellent info! Vitamin C is powerful stuff and works for so many things. They even use it as an alternative cancer therapy. I've read of someone having an indented acne scar rise from taking lots of vitamin C.

    If anyone wants to try the rosemary extract, bear in mind that it raises blood pressure.

    Thanks again for this awesome post, MostHoly!

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  • MostHoly
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    Here is information I put together for friends and family regarding herbal and supplemental immune boosters:

    The focus is on compounds, plants, vitamins and herbs that are easily available to the general population.
    Please note: for the US I'm happy to share the online stores I trust and use to buy these supplements and vitamins. Just not sure if I'm allowed to post them here and I want to be respectful of forum rules. In case it's not a problem just let me know and I'll add the links to the stores.
    Of course everyone should double check with their doctors to make sure the compounds, vitamins and herbs below are compatible with them.

    Here is a good post on vitamins and herbs, the basics you want to stock up on for sure to boost immunity right now:


    https://www.avap.life/super-boost-your-immune-system/


    Please note: in case of an infection you can high dose (between 10,000 to even 20,000 mg a day) Vitamin C, you'd just want to divide it up in 1,000 or 2,000 mg doses given hourly or every two hours. Ideally you can get intravenous Vitamin C. The Chinese have, as of February, officially acknowledged the value of Vitamin C therapy with regards to coronavirus.
    IV Vitamin C is first choice (up to 20,000 mg a day) but may not be readily available for home use as it must be administered.
    Liposomal is second best choice, then sprays and other oral supplements.

    You can also high dose Vitamin A for, say 3 days, if an infection is present. When you are sick, your body uses up Vitamin A like crazy, so it will not cause toxicity in the liver. And it is an amazing virus killer.

    Allicin (contained in garlic) and Quercetin (contained in yellow onions) are very protective as well.

    Here are the compounds that specifically target a viral infection from three angles. All the compounds have been substantiated via studies, the information is available online with some research.

    These here are helpful in inhibiting viral reproduction / 3 CL Protease:

    Forskolin

    Calendula extract

    Rosemary extract as well as rosemary (the spice), good to get and use both

    Magnolia extract or capsules

    Licorice Root extract (or capsules)

    Birch bark extract

    Cytokine Storm inhibitors

    Please read up about cytokine storm here, this is vital to know: https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0227142250.htm
    These supplements are good to take just for health maintenance in general. If infection does occur it is good to high dose to manage cytokine storm issues.

    Vitamin C

    Magnesium Chloride (400 mg daily)

    Vitamin D3

    Zinc

    Selenium

    B-Complex

    Curcumin (especially in combination with antivirals)

    Mast Cell Degranulation (this is a complex issue, please google if not familiar with it, here is one link that explains it in not too "sciency" language, in a nutshell, you want to inhibit Mast Cell Degranulation which can be caused by an infection with a virus and worsens the all over state of a patient, in the following are compounds that are helpful
    https://www.aaaai.org/conditions-and...onditions/mcas )


    Quercetin (as a supplement or found in yellow onions)

    Luteolin (found, for example in rosemary)

    Astragalus root

    Garlic


    If you feel overwhelmed by the above and want to focus only on a handful of compounds I would advise Vitamin C, Vitamin D, Rosemary extract and Birch Bark extract.

    Again, please make sure to double check any of the above with yoru primary healthcare provider to verify that there are no counter indications with medications or health conditions.

    Stay safe and healthy and happy. Blessings to all.


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  • Coconut
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    just to make sure that if you don't get it now, you def will after!

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  • Phaethon
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    Originally posted by PheroJack
    Yea even Trump went as far as calling it "The Chinese Virus" in one of his tweets, these are facts lol.
    Usually I don't agree with Trump but this time I do.

    Originally posted by Muestereate
    Must be those Chinese test kits giving false negatives.
    I don't believe it's the Chinese tests that give false negatives.
    You have to think bigger, much bigger. Think about the Chinese Stock Exchange!!!
    If they would have published the real numbers the Chinese Yuan would immediately have been in a "free fall" they would have lost billions over billions of $$ within some hours. The Chinese government could have been nearly bankrupt within a couple of days!! I believe this is the only reason why they didn't publish the real numbers.
    Compared to this scenario Trumps attempt of a trade war against China is just a little joke.
    And now comes the tariffs into play. Not being able to export as much as they would like to means less income. Less income for a state that is economically on its knees is pretty hard stuff.
    The Chinese aren't stupid, they knew this beforehand ergo they faked the numbers to prevent the big stock exchange panic.
    This is what I believe because I would have done so.

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  • Phaethon
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    Originally posted by PheroJack
    What saddens me though is someone like the Brazilian President. Claiming the virus is nothing but a flu...
    Like the Mexican President, he talked the same bu**shit. Oh how much I wish this corrupt bastards would get infected, just to feel a bit of the pain they cause to other people, people who trust them.


    Originally posted by PheroJack
    Claiming the virus is nothing but a flu and since Brazil has less than 100 cases, it will never reach USA's or China's.
    Let us have a look on this again in let's say about 2 or 3 weeks


    Originally posted by PheroJack
    He also believes that his citizens magically have some antibodies to the virus.

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  • Muestereate
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    Don't encourage yourself to get more anxious unless it helps you stay inside. There's no evidence that diet has anything to do with this, unless you dine on bats. Do stay inside, Try to limit either yourself or your husband to once a week excusrsions for necessities. Clean anything brought in and If I had to live with another person, I would be tempted to ask them to shower upon arriving home.

    Some homes have what used to be called mudrooms. Place for people to change and leave their dirty farming clothes in the mudroom and change into clenaer clothes to make their way to showers. This is how labs do this, they designate a dirty area and nothing dirty leaves that room unless it is in a garbage bag and headed to the laundry. It takes a bit how to learn how to keep the dirty stuff in the dirty area. I worked in nuclear field for a while and we used a lot of disposeable plastic booties as well as gloves and step off pads. The idea with a step off pad is similar to the mudroom, you could step off only if you were clean and di all your changing on that pad. Shoes were the hardest, a lot of balancing on one foot

    These are useful things to focus your anxiety onto as they will actually reduce your risks way way more than watching your diet.

    You take care.

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  • Coconut
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    we know that corona is mers and sars mixed

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  • Coconut
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    if we change our eating habits maybe this might help!
    i don't have all the answers!

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  • Coconut
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    Originally posted by Muestereate
    But Fish has mercury and and vegetables have pesticides.
    lol but both are not a pandemic
    you can get mercury poisin from a therometer, none of these are a panademic

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  • Muestereate
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    But Fish has mercury and and vegetables have pesticides.

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  • Coconut
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    if we stopped eating beef no crazy cow disease
    if stopped eating chicken no bird flu
    if we stopped eating pork no swine flu
    if the chinese stopped eating bats, no sars, mers, or ebola, or corona virus
    just fish and veg

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  • Muestereate
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    Norwegians worked long and hard to rid themselves of that mentality. You should not make it easy for it to rear it's ugly head again.

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