Women's pheros to avoid around women.

[SecretV]

Which pheros make women catty, jealous or feel inferior to you?

[Delight]

The last time I wore xs190, there was a woman who got hit and was impressed by my jewelry. She acted as if she thought that my bracelet that was covered in cubic zirconias was covered in diamonds. It got to the point that I started to feel uncomfortable. When she noticed what she was doing, she put her nose up in the air. I think that she felt inferior, but that’s the only person I’ve seen respond negatively when I wore the product. She appeared to be of lower to middle class.

[Isis]

This is a great question! I actually have not had much problem with pheros from XS. I was quite shocked when PSEL hit women well since sexual blends from other companies have gotten me hostile reactions from women. i.e Blatant Invitation from LPMP. As much as I love the sexual hits I get from this product (it is the besttt for that) women have sometimes acted incredibly hostile towards me to the point where I've had strangers jump to my defense (Men of course LOL)

Generally,I've found XS products to be fine around women though sometimes I've occasionally seen women shy away from me. It is a different story at work however, where I have to interact with women on a one on one basis. Even if I'm not wearing make up, some pheros work like I am wearing a full face of make up, in that it's more difficult for me to build rapport, women get shy/uncomfortable or try to put me in my place. I work as an esthetic med spa nurse in a wealthy area so I'm sure the setting and type of woman that comes in plays a part. I also have an esthetician license, so I sometimes do chemical peels and don't mind facials on my schedule when all the estheticians are booked. When I am doing facials especially, women are more likely to try put me in my place by ignoring my questions and greetings completely, or try to give me directions in a rude way. Blends that I avoid at work are anything with a feminine signature, anything with beautifying properties (I'm looking at you Xist4w) ,anything that gives me status. Basically, all I wear to work are unisex socials and engage. LOL. Which is unfortunate because I've read accounts of women who have successfully worn Tease and such while working in a spa setting. :(

[Ildergreier]

I have never gotten any hostility from any women when wearing pheromones from XS.

[lafemme]

Both celebrity and temptress alone weren't conducive towards encouraging a sisterhood amongst womenfolk in my experience.

[Ildergreier]

Both celebrity and temptress alone weren't conducive towards encouraging a sisterhood amongst womenfolk in my experience.

You believe in the theory of sisterhood?

[SecretV]

Interesting question since personally I do not. I believe in bro code but not in female-female loyalty.

[lafemme]

You believe in the theory of sisterhood?

Yes, I sure do! I'm a girl's girl!

Interesting question since personally I do not. I believe in bro code but not in female-female loyalty.

If bro code is believable, why not sis code?

[Ildergreier]

If bro code is believable, why not sis code?

Perhaps there is women who experiences it, but I have not.

[SecretV]

All I ever got from women is drama, competitive behaviour and backstabbing. So no. Sis code doesn't exist as far as I'm aware.

[Ildergreier]

All I ever got from women is drama, competitive behaviour and backstabbing. So no. Sis code doesn't exist as far as I'm aware.

I have som very good female friends, but a bigger sisterhood won't exist during pathriarchy.

[SecretV]

Interesting point of view. I'm not entirely sure whether we live in patriarchal world anymore. Then again . It really does depend which country you're in.

[Isis]

While it's steadily becoming more equal, men still tend to be in positions of power compared women. There is still gender wage gap. Women are still (mostly) valued for their appearance vs what they contribute to society (which propogates catty behavior that usually stems from jealousy of physical appearance). Imagine if women were widely valued for other accomplishments, makes me wonder how the competitive behavior would manifest. Maybe in the same way men are when they are competition with one another. I hope it changes! But I think that will take years and years of social conditioning

I agree that most developed Nations probably don't have a true patriarchal society, it's still closer to that than it is to an egalitarian one. At least in the US.

I've had good female friends but they're few and far between. Can't say I've had good male friends (if any, I can count one who happens to be an ex) as most have said, "I'm not friends with women" or "I can't be friends with a woman who I am attracted to"

[lafemme]

Perhaps there is women who experiences it, but I have not.

I'm very sorry to hear that. All my good friends are women, and they're family to me. I trust and love them unconditionally.

[lafemme]

All I ever got from women is drama, competitive behaviour and backstabbing. So no. Sis code doesn't exist as far as I'm aware.

Really? Do you have at least one woman in your life who you've not experienced this with. I've dealt with quite a bit of assholish women but more often than not, women who I've no prior experience with have been very kind, uplifting, and complimentary to me, upon meeting. I've experienced more drama with men than I have with women. They're always crying!

[lafemme]

While it's steadily becoming more equal, men still tend to be in positions of power compared women. There is still gender wage gap. Women are still (mostly) valued for their appearance vs what they contribute to society (which propogates catty behavior that usually stems from jealousy of physical appearance). Imagine if women were widely valued for other accomplishments, makes me wonder how the competitive behavior would manifest. Maybe in the same way men are when they are competition with one another. I hope it changes! But I think that will take years and years of social conditioning

I agree that most developed Nations probably don't have a true patriarchal society, it's still closer to that than it is to an egalitarian one. At least in the US.

I've had good female friends but they're few and far between. Can't say I've had good male friends (if any, I can count one who happens to be an ex) as most have said, "I'm not friends with women" or "I can't be friends with a woman who I am attracted to"

Me too, I can't say I have any true male friends besides the ones I borrowed from my older brother.

[Bosrel]

In my old town all my friends were female. I tend to bond easier with women. Now the thing about that is I was madly in love with one of them and never said anything, we’re still friends to this day some 12+ years later. I recently confessed my feelings to a girl at work that I had been completely infatuated with and even though she already knew how I felt, somehow once I made it official, our friendship went straight to hell. I’m now coming to terms with the idea that I don’t want to be “just friends” with her but I think she made that decision for me and started treating more like a work colleague than friend. In my experience it is easier to be “just friends” with women when there’s no attraction or at least no emotional feelings. I’ve been attracted to several female friends but only been “in love” with a select few and being around those few who don’t share those feelings is an emotional roller coaster because you enjoy their company but it kills you that they are with someone else and not you.

[SecretV]

lafemme I have one close female friend Sticky. While I have a few close male friends Sticky has gotten catty in the past.

[Isis]

^I've found that lesbians and bisexual women tend to be less catty. Have you tried being friends with someone that was lesbian or bisexual?

[eternitys_child]

being someone who's managed communal living in the United states (4 womens houses and 3 mens houses)

I can confirm to you that sisterhood, while amazing in theory, does not exist to the degree that brotherhood does. Granted I have seen some long term female to female bonds come out of these communities, the notion of "sisterhood", as it is being described in this context, is not what I would describe it as.

Whereas I can confirm multiple brotherhoods that have come out of these houses, one in particular that I actually belong to.

Nothing at all to do with gender roles in the community as in males having status while women are not holding as much status..... It really isn't. I just don't think the female psychology and/or biology is designed for the sisterhood type of bonding.

Full disclosure, in some other communities that I'm a part of, there IS such a thing as sisterhood, and they meet every Thursday but the context of the situation is completely different that it would be unfair to include that type of sisterhood in this comparison (they're a group of young sober women who have an AA meeting every thursday. When it comes to life or death trying to get off the drugs and alcohol....... this type of group setting is lifesaving)