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  • #21
    After I wrote this (previous post/page) I was puzzled how celebrity helps us bridge status gaps and I looked at other blends I've used that help me through status gaps and B-Anol seems pretty consistent in those formulations and Celebrity has relatively more than other status blends. Like it is 4th on the ingredients list instead of 5,6,7,8. It might be interesting to look for putative similar to B_Anol if there are any.

    Cohesion for women also has a lot and I know self- perceived drop in status happens during most women's periods. Many, possibly most of my intimate friendships and lovers have complained of not feeling worth shit.

    The Status gap may be the same as what feminist perceive to be inequality!! A few lies, a period, a lack of B-Anol and men's head roll. Perhaps B-Anol can save me from the wrath of the wounded and retaliatory. While they clamor for status what they really want is B_Anol?
    Last edited by Muestereate; 06-02-2019, 08:35 AM.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Metaltree View Post


      You can make anyone look bad through selective editing along with clever commentary. The videos you posted cover a wide range of topics in the criticism against Peterson but the videos don't go into any sort of depth so I don't think the criticisms are fair. The creator in the videos criticizes Jordan Peterson for his viewpoints on Post Modernism and the fact that Jordan Peterson is against Post Modernism and Marxism. I don't think it's wise to trust other people to do this sort of analysis for us. I certainly wouldn't trust anyone to analyze Jordan Peterson for me because everyone who does this sort of analysis online has their own agenda.

      I encourage everyone to form their opinions about Jordan Peterson by listening to Jordan Peterson himself.

      Here is a video of Jordan Peterson sharing his viewpoints on Marxism, Socialism and Postmodernism.
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      Here is the Cathy Newman interview mentioned in one of the videos.
      Channel 4 News’ full, fiery interview with clinical psychologist and professor Jordan B Peterson, whose views on gender have amassed great controversy - and ...
      In that same vain though, how could one completely form an opinion of a person from their words alone? Anybody is able to sound smart by saying the right words. Providing a different perspective on the issue is critical if we are to truly understand the philosophy of any individual or group. I certainly wouldn't listen to a member of the alt-right (not that Jordan Peterson is one, presumably) solely under the basis of others being able to twist their words, would I.

      I do believe the videos are of sufficient depth as the whole basis of what Jordan Peterson believes is nested in his beliefs on what Post Modern Neo-Marxism is (which is nothing more than a scary word), even in the first video you mentioned he is somehow able to relate Marxism with identity politics (even admitting that they both aren't compatible), claiming that identity politics is a sort of Trojan horse for Marxist beliefs. He mentions the overturning of "Western Civilization" (which is deceptive, Western Civilization is less homogeneous than you think) by these people, the implication being that identity politics is against the concept of Western Civilization. He encourages you to speak up for yourself, but the moment you do that in a group, "Oh no the postmodern Marxists are after us".

      Regarding the Cathy Newman interview, this quote is problematic "There's this idea that hierarchical structures are a sociological construct of the Western patriarchy". Literally no one says this, it's an absolute strawman. His case of the lobsters being a hierarchical structure is based on this first false claim and is built upon, making it totally redundant. Nobody denies the existence of hierarchies, not the feminists, not the minorities, not the Marxists and not even the anarchists.

      Again anyone is free to watch videos of him or listen to his podcast appearances but at the very least be critical of his worldview or you're just agreeing with somebody in an echo chamber.
      Last edited by Nightwing; 06-02-2019, 09:29 AM.
      �By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest.� - Confucius

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Muestereate View Post
        And that may be the same chemical pathway. Based on that, hide status if you have it and I guess show status if you don't have much. It's relative to how much status you have compared to the status of people you are around. Large gaps signal you are unlikely to be used as a tool. Small gaps have a higher probability of being able to be bridged.

        I guess we have an instinct to avoid serotonin depletion. That might be linked to that circuit via some pain avoidance mechanic.

        For the first status problem, we have epi-rone to decrease and androsterone to increase. A1 may be an avenue to avoid the pain and provide comfort if the gap is to large between social strata or has a high probability of failure as in the Ferrari exercise. But there are others available here besides a1 as we all know.

        Shaping pheromone theories around status instead of sex could be an interesting exercise. I pursue it because I believe it has longer-term applications in relationship management and in the long term has a much broader appeal.
        maybe there is some truth to that.

        i see it mostly as such:
        if you have to state youre worth, it seems like you are faking it and overcompensating about weakness's you have.
        and also, if you shove how much better you are or how much better youre life is then other people, you will make them feel inferior and thus bad.
        if you just happen to be an awesome successful person, people cant hate you for it, so they appreciate you instead.
        of course there will always be some haters.

        beeing perceived as higher statues can make people around you feel bad, if only because they feel insecure.
        b-nol makes you seem more trustworthy and helps with bonding so i can always see it helping a lot.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by hombre View Post
          if you just happen to be an awesome successful person, people cant hate you for it, so they appreciate you instead.
          This!

          *B-Anol falls into cart...*

          What you mention is interesting because I wore a heavy dose of Cohesion to a family member's funeral and was treated in a matriarchal way. I believe that is even the word I used to describe it at the time some 4+years ago. I am by no means the eldest nor anything close to the head of our family, but even my mother deferred to me uniquely that day.

          It was absolutely a perception of position and place, order, without being domineering. Respect without aggression. B-Anol? Worth investigating...

          I don't fit into the menstrual cycle thing. Took a quiz once where the option was, do you feel like Beyonce on the runway or Carrie at her prom during your period?
          Beyonce baby! All month long, every month!
          But I know some women who are pretty miserable - but that's usually physical ailments, not lack of worth.
          I'm beginning to feel really bad for the circle of women you find yourself within That's so sad!
          You're never too old to learn NuTrix ^_~

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          • #25
            What dose B-Anol are you looking at? I've got the 20 in the cart because the stuff I'm looking for starts at 25-40.

            I'm not really in that circle anymore. The only way to test my theory will be to get near them again at the right time. Maybe the world needs a Bitch Shield blend. I could wear some enone to catch ovulation dates and calculate from there. Then swoop in with my Banol shield and a vial of cohesion/w strapped to my ankle for backup.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Muestereate View Post
              What dose B-Anol are you looking at? I've got the 20 in the cart because the stuff I'm looking for starts at 25-40.

              I'm not really in that circle anymore. The only way to test my theory will be to get near them again at the right time. Maybe the world needs a Bitch Shield blend. I could wear some enone to catch ovulation dates and calculate from there. Then swoop in with my Banol shield and a vial of cohesion/w strapped to my ankle for backup.
              I've got the 10 mcg sitting in my cart because the recommend is wildly between 12.5 & 100 If I prefer the higher end, I can still tack on to combos with Celebrity or Cohesion without too much concern/over thinking.

              OHMYBWAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAA! My overactive imagination just had a hay day with this word picture
              You're never too old to learn NuTrix ^_~

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              • #27
                Originally posted by SeekingTruths View Post
                In that same vain though, how could one completely form an opinion of a person from their words alone? Anybody is able to sound smart by saying the right words. Providing a different perspective on the issue is critical if we are to truly understand the philosophy of any individual or group. I certainly wouldn't listen to a member of the alt-right (not that Jordan Peterson is one, presumably) solely under the basis of others being able to twist their words, would I.
                Of course you should judge people on their words but also listen to all sides. Don't jump to positive or negative conclusions. Don't trust labels. If someone is labeled as "alt-right", "radical feminist", or any other label don't believe it until you actually listen to what they have to say.

                I agree with your point, "Anybody is able to sound smart by saying the right words". Some people, especially politicians, have the ability to make absolute nonsense sound like common sense through the clever use of language. Each of us has the ability to sharpen our critical thinking skills and learn how to see beyond that.


                Originally posted by SeekingTruths View Post
                I do believe the videos are of sufficient depth as the whole basis of what Jordan Peterson believes is nested in his beliefs on what Post Modern Neo-Marxism is (which is nothing more than a scary word),
                Post modernism is a real movement and Neo-Marxism is a real philosophy.



                Jordan Peterson is an advocate of the principles behind the age of enlightenment and especially individual liberty.



                Originally posted by SeekingTruths View Post
                even in the first video you mentioned he is somehow able to relate Marxism with identity politics (even admitting that they both aren't compatible), claiming that identity politics is a sort of Trojan horse for Marxist beliefs. He mentions the overturning of "Western Civilization" (which is deceptive, Western Civilization is less homogeneous than you think) by these people, the implication being that identity politics is against the concept of Western Civilization. He encourages you to speak up for yourself, but the moment you do that in a group, "Oh no the postmodern Marxists are after us".
                You have several ideas you are trying to get across here:
                Idea #1: He tries to relate Marxism with identity politics
                Idea #2: He believes that identity politics is a sort of Trojan horse for Marxist beliefs
                Idea #3: His idea that Identity politics is against the concept of Western Civilization
                Idea #4: Your whole sentence that finishes with "Oh no the postmodern Marxists are after us".

                Each of these ideas should have their own paragraph and you should present his actual quotes along with a reference to the source material and the start time in the video so the reader can analyze the source material in context on his/her own. Maybe his views are as you describe and maybe his views are not. But this paragraph doesn't convince me of anything as it is written.


                Originally posted by SeekingTruths View Post
                Regarding the Cathy Newman interview, this quote is problematic "There's this idea that hierarchical structures are a sociological construct of the Western patriarchy". Literally no one says this, it's an absolute strawman. His case of the lobsters being a hierarchical structure is based on this first false claim and is built upon, making it totally redundant. Nobody denies the existence of hierarchies, not the feminists, not the minorities, not the Marxists and not even the anarchists.
                My interpretation of his point about lobsters is that social hierarchies are built into our brains and are built into the part of our brain that evolved hundreds of millions of years ago. Of course, my interpretation is an opinion so I expect some people to disagree.

                Regarding Jordan Peterson's belief that you quoted, "There's this idea that hierarchical structures are a sociological construct of the Western patriarchy" I am curious if he is right or wrong about this. If any intersectional feminists are reading this, I'm interested in your opinion on this matter. Do you believe that the hierarchical structures in our society are a sociological construct of the western patriarchy?


                Originally posted by SeekingTruths View Post
                Again anyone is free to watch videos of him or listen to his podcast appearances but at the very least be critical of his worldview or you're just agreeing with somebody in an echo chamber.
                Of course. This is common sense. Everyone should listen to the opinions of people from all different perspectives and ideologies.





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                • Metaltree
                  Metaltree commented
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                  My point is that I believe people should judge Jordan Peterson by listening to his body of work themselves rather than relying on other people to make the judgements for them.

                • Muestereate
                  Muestereate commented
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                  I introduced him solely for his body of work which is huge. I like that he uses language precisely instead of more easily understood generalities He can be hard to follow but worth the time/effort.

                • Metaltree
                  Metaltree commented
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                  I agree.

              • #28
                Originally posted by NuTrix View Post
                OHMYBWAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAA! My overactive imagination just had a hay day with this word picture



                I am designing an Ankle holster for a 10 ml spray as we speak. Perhaps the ladies could use a 10 ml thigh holster as well or maybe just a few slots for 2ml samplers?

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                • #29
                  Originally posted by Muestereate View Post

                  I am designing an Ankle holster for a 10 ml spray as we speak. Perhaps the ladies could use a 10 ml thigh holster as well or maybe just a few slots for 2ml samplers?
                  Already there. Started with a thigh holster for a revolver speedloader, holds 6 sample bottles. A little bulky though, still modifying...
                  You're never too old to learn NuTrix ^_~

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                  • #30
                    pics or it didn't happen.

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                    • NuTrix
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                  • #31
                    @Muestereate, love your deep discussion topics....haven't watched the video yet; just wanted to say I am a Jungian at heart - he took a lot from the i-Ching

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                    • #32
                      I just wanted to add that since this thread, I started reading Petereson's book, 12 Principles, and I absolutely love it. Halfway through it now, on audio. Thanks Muestereate for introducing him to us!

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                      • #33
                        Reread a couple chapters just the other day. I have it on kindle and saw it in the book store. Nice to pick up the real book too, Is the audio read by the author?

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