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I Think I May Have Discovered Something About Older Women
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Originally posted by manover84 View Post
Really? I'll have to try this with my Asian friend, shes not talking to me.
What self improvement have you been doing?
Pheromones are an enhancement she's not going to take a whiff then fall in love with you. I know it's confusing as the forum is filled with stories of over exaggerated claims by most but anyone experienced with women will tell you at least 90% of it is down to your appearance and game.
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Originally posted by Primross View Post
Have you ever thought she's not into you and no sig will change that?
What self improvement have you been doing?
Pheromones are an enhancement she's not going to take a whiff then fall in love with you. I know it's confusing as the forum is filled with stories of over exaggerated claims by most but anyone experienced with women will tell you at least 90% of it is down to your appearance and game.
Women can love you one minute and hate you the next, so I'm not not too worried about her "being into me". I know what pheromones can and cant do, they wont make someone do something to door isnt already open to. And game and appearance is a bs theory, I've seen 400 lb guys that dont have appearance going for them pull women. It's all about her emotions, you know that.XS - Xist oil, Cohesion oil, API oil, Taboo oil, Ascend w cops, Evolve, Connections, Love Boat, Exotica, P96, Crush sample, SOB sample, Barely Legal sample, XSport sample.
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Originally posted by manover84 View Post
Anything is possible, we butt heads much like Scottie and Bitchface and he's had her swoon.
Women can love you one minute and hate you the next, so I'm not not too worried about her "being into me". I know what pheromones can and cant do, they wont make someone do something to door isnt already open to. And game and appearance is a bs theory, I've seen 400 lb guys that dont have appearance going for them pull women. It's all about her emotions, you know that.
It's better to improve yourself and hit up as many girls as you can it's a number game after all. Not all of them will be into youPheromone XS
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Originally posted by Primross View Post
Well wait for your miracle and you will likely be disappointed
It's better to improve yourself and hit up as many girls as you can it's a number game after all. Not all of them will be into youXS - Xist oil, Cohesion oil, API oil, Taboo oil, Ascend w cops, Evolve, Connections, Love Boat, Exotica, P96, Crush sample, SOB sample, Barely Legal sample, XSport sample.
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Originally posted by Muestereate View PostOther older women threads haven't gone far and i may have discovered something that warrants a fresh thread.
Post menopausal and post hysterectomy women need a feminizing molecule.
I can count on one hand, good responses from older women that felt like they could go anywhere other than social.- SOB
- Dirty primitive
- Xist
- Exotica
Recently I started experimenting with female blends
Most make me really horny and a couple feels like a warm furry hug from the fluffy sweater girls of my youth. It does not feel manly but they are comforting. I hesitate to wear them solo though and I keep noticing a lively twinkle in the ladies eyes. Last night I took out TEASE as part of a real stupid combo. I was with my XSO having Pizza at a bar with several couples. Now my XSO ALWAYS gets pissed 30 seconds after a sexual or kind thought. She's frigid post hysterectomy.
I think women feel embarrassed or ashamed of sexual feelings. menopause may make them feel DEsexualized and as a result, DEwomanized. They need a social but a disinhibitor like allo-thdoc. SOB has some of this. Beta-Androstenol may be another social, The transformation from wooden statue to fluffy sweater takes time.
I found that Cops works well with older women. I bought some DesireMe+ ladies cops with beta androstenol. While they get social, some old sexual associations are building. Cops seems pretty good with older ladies in general.
Now enone is a problem, Older ladies need a lot, after a lifetime, they don't excite easily. I use DIRTY Primitive for my enone boosts but evolve might work.
But without something to make them feel feminine:
You have a friendly piece of wood that wants to smack somebody because they have an itch they are ASHAMED to scratch.
I'm pretty sure when I wear a feminizing molecule around an older woman she feels happy and even somewhat grateful that around me, she once again, feels like a woman.
Disinhibitors don't take that away by themselves. The different part of my combo last night was TEASE. I had been getting a knowing twinkle with Fantasy but looking back, they may have thought I was feminine and they were giving me the, I know you are gay eye, if there is that look. But Tease has BETA-Allothdoc and the knowing twinkle turned into a, thanks for making me(her) feel feminine again.
I can also see this working with XIST because it's reasonable for me to expect a woman to need time to readjust to feeling feminine again.
I may try this with boyfriend in keeping with the xist theme, maybe quicker. Though SOB just works for me and boyfriend still doesn't
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She wants to go out again tonight, but she doesn't know she's paying yet.
What part of feeling feminine confuses you, Vicki? Is it the part where you become vulnerable to buying your own Pizza? It's not really that way.
I realize feminity makes a woman vulnerable but do you realize that vulnerability makes a woman feminine. Femininity is attractive to men. Sexuality makes you disposable but femininity is what makes a man want to protect a woman. It's really what a woman should cultivate and learn to harness. Vulnerability can get you abused but feminity can get you protected.
Women cultivate all these personas that are purposely strong to protect themselves. They are not attractive and as importantly they tell a man that the woman will be alright by herself. In other your words the message you send is 'It's alright to leave me'. When you add in sexuality now it becomes something like, 'Its ok to screw me and leave me, I can handle it' The end result is more abuse. In this girls case, if she acts like a woman she'll get fed. If she acts like a tuff guy, she'll be buying her own. I don't buy tuff guys dinner.
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Originally posted by Muestereate View PostShe wants to go out again tonight, but she doesn't know she's paying yet.
What part of feeling feminine confuses you, Vicki? Is it the part where you become vulnerable to buying your own Pizza? It's not really that way.
I realize feminity makes a woman vulnerable but do you realize that vulnerability makes a woman feminine. Femininity is attractive to men. Sexuality makes you disposable but femininity is what makes a man want to protect a woman. It's really what a woman should cultivate and learn to harness. Vulnerability can get you abused but feminity can get you protected.
Women cultivate all these personas that are purposely strong to protect themselves. They are not attractive and as importantly they tell a man that the woman will be alright by herself. In other your words the message you send is 'It's alright to leave me'. When you add in sexuality now it becomes something like, 'Its ok to screw me and leave me, I can handle it' The end result is more abuse. In this girls case, if she acts like a woman she'll get fed. If she acts like a tuff guy, she'll be buying her own. I don't buy tuff guys dinner.PXS (FB 10ml): Babe, Bitch(XS124), Celebrity/W, Comply/U(xs199), DM+(Spray), Engage/U, Fantasy, Girlfriend, Goddess, Happiness/U, Madame, Mascot/U, Naked Gun(XS146), Outspoken/U, NENO(12.5 mcg), PSEL/W, Sexy Confidence, Sweetness/W, XSP-H, XSR32, XSP86, XSP96(2x), XS189/w
(FB 30ml): Babe**, DM+(spray)**, Fantasy/W**, Inbetween**, NENO(10 mcg), Xist/w
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You, by the way, came into my thread. Which you are welcome to do. I pray you get a chance to grow old though I have my concerns about your future health and FengShui. And if you do grow old, I hope your bitterness presently overtaking you has an opportunity to get peeled back and that you may be one of the lucky ones that can embrace their femininity gracefully instead of with fear. In my experience, women following your paths do not find freedom at the other end of their journey.
You are not old anyhow, I'm surprised you even opened this thread.
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Well I went with XIST and Tease, and without SOB some shit testing ensued though it was not very spirited and was easily countered. What was interesting was I was willing to counter it, its not usually worth my time. This time it didn't bother me.
Her: Remember when you told me to leave.
Me: remember when you tried to stab me.
Her: remember when you moved out.
Me: Remember when you beat me in my sleep.
Her: Remember when you called the cops on me.
Me: Remember when you poisoned me.
Somewhere in here is the key to her acting like a woman instead of an old bitter thug.
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Originally posted by Muestereate View PostWell I went with XIST and Tease, and without SOB some shit testing ensued though it was not very spirited and was easily countered. What was interesting was I was willing to counter it, its not usually worth my time. This time it didn't bother me.
Her: Remember when you told me to leave.
Me: remember when you tried to stab me.
Her: remember when you moved out.
Me: Remember when you beat me in my sleep.
Her: Remember when you called the cops on me.
Me: Remember when you poisoned me.
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WTH?!
Why are you still even conversing with this person? Hopefully in a well lit, very public place
Of course there's that tiny spot in the back of my mind that wonders what you did...lol.
I wish it weren't so, but I do know crazy ass people of both genders who are just mad (imbalanced/lack self control) and have done/would threaten to do such things. I'm afraid their age doesn't have a range though - all old enough to know better, imho.
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Sorry you even had to experience that.
What do you think you were wearing that had you less bothered to respond? Or do you think your mood was more relaxed and you just weren't going to let her get you riled up with her foolishness?You're never too old to learn NuTrix ^_~
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No idea until I run XIST and Tease a couple more times. not caring enough to chase might be in tease though. Though it looks like I defended myself, that actually came from not caring. I usually just let her throw accusations and judgments at me. SOB has you not caring too but I omitted it.
I have had friends that were real bastards and critical and I usually don't stay close. Once I played the game back and what I learned is that it makes the asshole comfortable but other people judge you to be the asshole for responding. I'm not sure what to take out of that harsh lesson but doing it in public isn't good. So the well lit public place is not the place for exchanges with people like this.
Most of her complaints are of the nature that I reacted negatively to her verbal or physical abuse. It's as if I don't have the right to become angry at all. It pisses her off if I fight back.
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I didn't read it as defending yourself, more of a matter of stating the facts. In my own experiences I've found it pointless to defend myself to that type of personality and you seem to know that already too. I only figured public place because, er, psycho...?! Maybe I'm being too harsh on her...
SOB sounds pretty alpha, lots of Enone? I know women who say when they hit a threshold for Enone it flips their bitch switch. I wonder, even with the Tease and Xist, if SOB, a least for this particular individual, is making her confrontational?You're never too old to learn NuTrix ^_~
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Some people just have a conflict oriented personality too.Arsenal
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The Cinderella fantasy met reality that a prince charming cannot rescue a girl from the drudgery of work in an age of two-income households. Tease lit up some femininity and innocence lit up the spark of youth. Enone bitch threshold probably hasn't been passed. I find it takes around 6o ug to light up sexual interest but the permission to be a woman again is elusive, as fast as one blend turn it on, it gets shut back off until the next blend finds a chink in the armor she has constructed.
Xist and Tease and Dirty Primitive kind of wore her down but I want that spark of uninhibited femininity and not just a defeat of faulty reason. I may have to settle for defeat but I can't imagine escalating on only that.
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Originally posted by Ildergreier View PostSome people just have a conflict oriented personality too.
Muestereate seems to be on a similar path with females who have been bristly in the past and present for him. This is one of my favorite fascinations about pheromones, making friends and influencing people...over time, I believe they can be used to work a way/path into the psyche and influence a person's behavior even when not exposed directly. Positive experience reinforcements during exposure work their way over into other areas/relationships even when not exposed.
It's exciting to watch/see
Am I over thinking again?...You're never too old to learn NuTrix ^_~
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Originally posted by NuTrix View Post
That's true, but I'm curious because I was able to use pheromones to get past the walls of a co-worker who was notoriously difficult for everyone to work with. It's changing the whole dynamic of our team now because over time he's becoming better for others as well, not just me. He's still bristly with others on occasion but the difference is noticable even to them. (I keep my phero powers secret, but it's easy to investigate, we're a fairly small team hahaha!) He and I now have a great working relationship and he's never bristly with me.
Muestereate seems to be on a similar path with females who have been bristly in the past and present for him. This is one of my favorite fascinations about pheromones, making friends and influencing people...over time, I believe they can be used to work a way/path into the psyche and influence a person's behavior even when not exposed directly. Positive experience reinforcements during exposure work their way over into other areas/relationships even when not exposed.
It's exciting to watch/see
Am I over thinking again?...
When it comes to difficult bosses: The key seem to be they think everybody but them is not good at their job, and they use their position to reinforce that thinking instead of trying to inspire to better work ethic. Since nobody dare to tell them to relax, things continue and often escalate. I believe the pheromones made him think of you as an equal first, and then he saw your work ethic, then he started to relax and his perception of his co workers and associates changed with time.
Does this sound about right or am I missing something?Arsenal
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