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  • Primross
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    #41
    Originally posted by SteveO
    It will be corrected in the updated store. SOB is ridiculous because unlike other blends we have to double the initial base concentrates. If we were normally to use 5 grams for every 500ml the base for SOB would start with 10 grams. Just an example so don't quote my math here. I do not have the formula in front of me
    I saw the spreadsheet of contents of ingredients and sob is a beast doubling all other mixes
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    Oil: evolve, xist
    Spray: Xist, Evolve, cohesion, sob

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    • Bloodburn
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      #42
      Originally posted by Primross

      I saw the spreadsheet of contents of ingredients and sob is a beast doubling all other mixes
      Where can I find that spreadsheet?

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      • Scottie2Hottie
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        #43
        Originally posted by Bloodburn

        Where can I find that spreadsheet?
        Knowledgeispower has a link in his signature. He did two versions. I believe this one is the most recent.

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        • Bloodburn
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          #44
          Originally posted by Scottie2Hottie

          Knowledgeispower has a link in his signature. He did two versions. I believe this one is the most recent.
          Found it. Thank you. This looks interesting.

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          • Primross
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            #45
            Originally posted by Bloodburn

            Found it. Thank you. This looks interesting.
            It's a good read
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            Oil: evolve, xist
            Spray: Xist, Evolve, cohesion, sob

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            • Bloodburn
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              #46
              Don't know if 1875mcg/spray for SOB is a typo.

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              • Primross
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                #47
                Originally posted by Bloodburn
                Don't know if 1875mcg/spray for SOB is a typo.
                I don't think so. Did we ever figure out how much enone is in it?
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                Oil: evolve, xist
                Spray: Xist, Evolve, cohesion, sob

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                • Bloodburn
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Primross

                  I don't think so. Did we ever figure out how much enone is in it?
                  Look closely at pheromone content, 14.96 compared to other mixes with higher number. The concentration per spray is relative to the content number. ie Desire Me 43.6/545mcg, Crush 40/500mcg, Evolve 37.84/473mcg etc., SOB has 14.96 so it should have around 18x mcg. Maybe someone made a mistake and put 7 or 5 in.

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                  • Muestereate
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                    I've wondered about that spray total too, redirecting to total mone content is a good lead but I can't find the source of that 14.96 number
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                  #49
                  Originally posted by Bloodburn
                  Don't know if 1875mcg/spray for SOB is a typo.
                  Yes it is. I had it worked out at one time but can't remember what I came up with but 187 may be cotrect.

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                  • Bloodburn
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                    #50
                    Maybe it’s 187.5mcg but he forgot the period?

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                    • Scottie2Hottie
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                      #51
                      Could be.

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                      • Primross
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                        #52
                        Hm ok I guess so. But how much enone is in there?
                        Pheromone XS
                        Oil: evolve, xist
                        Spray: Xist, Evolve, cohesion, sob

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                          #53
                          Nobody Knows,

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                            #54
                            Originally posted by Primross
                            Hm ok I guess so. But how much enone is in there?
                            Only XSteveO knows the answer to that.

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                              #55
                              Originally posted by Bloodburn

                              Only XSteveO knows the answer to that.
                              Would be useful to know and i like pairing p96 with none but I'm not sure if it's worth it with sob
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                              Oil: evolve, xist
                              Spray: Xist, Evolve, cohesion, sob

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                                #56
                                well our guess so far are 18.75 to 30. If I ventured a guess I'd say 40 but I don't think that's affordable so there would have to be a anti-buffer. Something that doubles the effect of the enone. I've seen a putative that may be able to do this with only like 2.5 to 5 of this other pheromone.

                                Steve says the base starts out at double though, that is where I came up with 40. Its just more practical to think its as effective as 40 without having to really BE 40.

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                                  #57
                                  Originally posted by Primross

                                  Would be useful to know and i like pairing p96 with none but I'm not sure if it's worth it with sob
                                  I think users have been asking this from SteveO for years how much enone SOB has, lol.

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                                    #58
                                    The anti-buffer, though I can't recall its name doesn't make congruency as important. A look at SOB description says something similar. Strange that only the oil is priced higher though. High price usually goes with enone content.

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                                      #59
                                      I wonder why evolve is disclosed as 20 and sob is a mystery
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                                      Oil: evolve, xist
                                      Spray: Xist, Evolve, cohesion, sob

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                                        #60
                                        Steve said he just hasn't got around to it and stated earlier in the thread he didn't have the formula in front of him. A part of his mission is to disclose what he can about the products instead of hide them. If he wanted to hide it, I think he would have just explained that he had too for business reasons. Until then, we'll have to do trial and error like the old days. It seems my 30 ml SOB dispenses more than my 10 even though It's not supposed to. I'm back to measuring with syringes again I guess.

                                        3 sample sprays were magic, have not recreated that with my new bottle. I may have to combo it with BW, It may have been the combo That I'm trying to recreate.

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