Day time mones

[pingu]

i only have A1 and xist in oil, i live in a warm place but its winter now and i cant seem to make the oils work.

How cold is the winter you are talking about where the Oils stops working? I'm curious

[hombre]

i wouldnt say stop working. i only used A1 a few times in mixes so hard to tell how much effect it had but i am pretty sure i did see its effeccts.
i would say even more then pretty sure because 3 times out of the 4 i got into super deep convos with ladys, including one girl i met at a bar that started to cry after i talked about how i love my parents lol

the thing is ive used almost an entire 10 ml of xist spray and always had great hits including hitting myself.
ive used over 6 times the oil, solo or in combinations and saw or felt nothing.
i only felt the self effects and had a girl hit once but i excersized right before i met her.

all in all it feels like i really need to warm up for it to work, while with the spray it was hit cityyyyy.
it was also working very well on short, long and multiple exposures, indoors, outdoors, backdoors, when it was warm, cold, mating season, hunting season, hollyday season, fully clothed, fully naked, new people, new friends, people that have known me all their life, family, haters, lovers, humens, animals.... you get the point.

the winter here is not cold at all and thats part of the problem, most places dont really turn the heating on so its cool environment.

[Primross]

I go by the rule of thumb of warm+exposure time is best for oils.

Cold and quick encounters spray is the only way

[Bloodburn]

[Primross]

It takes time

[Primross]

nyeay for a cashier what is the fastest hitting and most appropriate product??

[Bloodburn]

interesting. i recall you said you live in thialand right?
i only have A1 and xist in oil, i live in a warm place but its winter now and i cant seem to make the oils work.
i have them unscented.
i am sticking to sprays for now and ill go back to oils in the summer.
so far i found the sprays to work really good and i dont see a reason to use the oils, i rather just redose.
its too big of a difference for me, i feel like im getting maybe 10% of the product potential.

Actually it was me who live in Thailand.

I have PXS spray and oil but now I prefer spray most of the time even in god forsaken all year long hot land.

[hombre]

Actually it was me who live in Thailand.

I have PXS spray and oil but now I prefer spray most of the time even in god forsaken all year long hot land.

pxs sprays are the shit!

i have the 10 mcg A1 in oil, i did saw it work, A1 takes longer to reach full effects so the spray have less of an advantage.
the spray would be super interesting though.
last night ive used it with av, nude and dp so hard to tell haha but i do think it had effect.
girls were very comfortable with me.

ive mixed my A1 with super iso in close to 50-50 ratio.
dont know if it makes it better but it should in theory and so far it works.

if i were you i would do the same. 50 mcg is high dose anyway.
i dont think you should use more then 20.
i dont have much experience with A1, but it what ive read and it work great for me.

[MRSNAKE]

interesting. i recall you said you live in thialand right?
i only have A1 and xist in oil, i live in a warm place but its winter now and i cant seem to make the oils work.
i have them unscented.
i am sticking to sprays for now and ill go back to oils in the summer.
so far i found the sprays to work really good and i dont see a reason to use the oils, i rather just redose.
its too big of a difference for me, i feel like im getting maybe 10% of the product potential.

I'm in Canada, the way i see it, winter or not. I will be indoors where it will be like summer conditions. I wouldn't give to much thought about the weather unless you want to meet women outdoors during winter. Only thought i have between the oils vs spray is how much time i have with the target. If i only have 1-3 mins or so i want to be using the spray, if I'm on a date and i have 10-15 mins for it to kick it i would go with the oil. Most people don't go to bars or clubs for more than2-3 hours anyways, so just stick with the sprays, especially if you want it to hit the target fast.

[Primross]

I'm in Canada, the way i see it, winter or not. I will be indoors where it will be like summer conditions. I wouldn't give to much thought about the weather unless you want to meet women outdoors during winter. Only thought i have between the oils vs spray is how much time i have with the target. If i only have 1-3 mins or so i want to be using the spray, if I'm on a date and i have 10-15 mins for it to kick it i would go with the oil. Most people don't go to bars or clubs for more than2-3 hours anyways, so just stick with the sprays, especially if you want it to hit the target fast.

Well said

[hombre]

I'm in Canada, the way i see it, winter or not. I will be indoors where it will be like summer conditions. I wouldn't give to much thought about the weather unless you want to meet women outdoors during winter. Only thought i have between the oils vs spray is how much time i have with the target. If i only have 1-3 mins or so i want to be using the spray, if I'm on a date and i have 10-15 mins for it to kick it i would go with the oil. Most people don't go to bars or clubs for more than2-3 hours anyways, so just stick with the sprays, especially if you want it to hit the target fast.

first of all, like i said, its not so cold here so many places dosent have heating and thus are quiet chilly.
besides that, i usually pass between rooms and buildings alot so my mones keep getting cooled. unlike summer when its super hot and sunny and thus instead of getting cooled, they are gettin super warmed.

and i know its a big difference from experience.
i usually dont see effects from my unscented swoon oil, which have a very heavy main molecule.
i started to use it when it got colder but there was still sun sometimes.
every time there was sun and i was standing in the sun for a few minutes, it would start to diffuse like crazy.
and with swoon main molecule having the effect of releasing serotonin, when its started to diffuse you would fucking know.
i would be standing a few minutes in the sun and start to feel high and then go to a mirror and see my pupils super dilated.
and it would hit everyone around me like crazy for probably at least an hour since the sun exposure.


other then that, ive just tested xist in oil, including again today and not seeing much.
it dosent say its not working but if it is its very subtle.
the sprays ive tried worked great in any environment and hit alot harder so aside from getting 2-4 hours on duration, it seems to me that the sprays are way better.

[Bloodburn]

and i know its a big difference from experience.
i usually dont see effects from my unscented swoon oil, which have a very heavy main molecule.
i started to use it when it got colder but there was still sun sometimes.
every time there was sun and i was standing in the sun for a few minutes, it would start to diffuse like crazy.
and with swoon main molecule having the effect of releasing serotonin, when its started to diffuse you would fucking know.
i would be standing a few minutes in the sun and start to feel high and then go to a mirror and see my pupils super dilated.
and it would hit everyone around me like crazy for probably at least an hour since the sun exposure.

I love Swoon too. It's my most favorite mix that I reach out to if I know I'm gonna meet any girls (if I'm not testing anything at that moment). I got it in Vanilla so I have no issue with its diffusion but I never get that self effect from Astaxanthin molecule in Swoon.

But Xist oil made me a believer when I got my first blatant hit. It was not subtle at all when I got looks and DIHL from Asian girls.

[manover84]

Sometimes you have to look at things from a different angle. Yes as the name implies it was designed for use on younger women. A name is one thing but what's really important is the composition. As SteveO said in his post, using strong sexuals, i.e., high Enone, is like walking around with your junk hanging out. Most of the time women have their guard up. About the only exception is if they're in a really comfortable safe environment or when they are disinhibited by alcohol. And actually alcohol has a secondary influence, as well. Alcohol effects our hormones. It decreases testosterone in men (the dreaded whiskey dick) and increases testosterone in women. During a woman's cycle her testosterone spikes during ovulation. As a result her libido increases and she's more receptive to sex. But I digress. The reason day game is so challenging is because women have their guard up. They get approached by men all the time. If you approach a woman she's going to assume that you're going to hit on her. And why do men hit on women? Because they want sex. A woman already knows that you want sex even before you open your mouth.

Now let's look at Enone. One of the effects and the one most guys focus on is sexual arousal. But let's consider elements of attraction. In studies women have rated pictures of men as more attractive when exposed to Enone. In a study conducted by James V. Kohl, the creator of Scent Of Eros, women rated pictures of men who represented high testosterone as more attractive. In another study women preferred the odor of men with high testosterone and symmetrical facial features. Women have an evolutionary biological drive to mate with men who offer the best genes that they can attract. High testosterone and facial symmetry represent superior genes. We know that men with high testosterone produce more Enone. So the common thinking is to use more Enone. Seems to make sense considering what I mentioned, right. But let's consider the fact that Enone also signals aggression. It can also trigger a fight or flight response. Anyone who has used excessive amounts Enone can probably attest to that. It also says that you're highly sexual.

There's a fine line between wow that guy's hot and yikes that guy's scary. How you are perceived could depend on the product you choose. Taboo has only 5 mcg of Enone per spray. Evolve and SOB have 20 mcg of Enone per spray. For day game you don't want to come across as too aggressive. Higher Enone is likely to be perceived as sexually aggressive. Which product do you think has a better chance of getting past the wall women put up? Taboo also has Anol which will promote conversation. Another component is Androstadienone (A1). This molecule brings several factors to the equation. In studies it has been found to signal masculinity. It causes mood elevation in women. In a study where women were asked to rate random photos the group exposed to A1 rated photos as more attractive. It has a beautifying effect. It creates this big cuddly teddy bear kind of perception. It's also been known to have imprinting properties. It heightens tactile sensation. It creates a desire to touch and be touched. It makes kino more effective. These qualities Have been confirmed by ladies here on the forum.

So it seems that if you are dealing with women who are guarded that a signature that says sexy and attractive, one that could trigger unconscious biological urges while creating comfort would be preferred. If you want to get anywhere you must disarm her defenses while creating desire and attraction. Using a product that causes them to strengthen their defenses or that creates a fear reaction is only going to work against you. Given what I've said can you see how Taboo would be a good tool for day game? It's not a matter of age so much as it is the effect of the ingredients and the context in which you are using them.

Can't get enough of these posts, thanks Sensei

[MRSNAKE]

first of all, like i said, its not so cold here so many places dosent have heating and thus are quiet chilly.
besides that, i usually pass between rooms and buildings alot so my mones keep getting cooled. unlike summer when its super hot and sunny and thus instead of getting cooled, they are gettin super warmed.

and i know its a big difference from experience.
i usually dont see effects from my unscented swoon oil, which have a very heavy main molecule.
i started to use it when it got colder but there was still sun sometimes.
every time there was sun and i was standing in the sun for a few minutes, it would start to diffuse like crazy.
and with swoon main molecule having the effect of releasing serotonin, when its started to diffuse you would fucking know.
i would be standing a few minutes in the sun and start to feel high and then go to a mirror and see my pupils super dilated.
and it would hit everyone around me like crazy for probably at least an hour since the sun exposure.


other then that, ive just tested xist in oil, including again today and not seeing much.
it dosent say its not working but if it is its very subtle.
the sprays ive tried worked great in any environment and hit alot harder so aside from getting 2-4 hours on duration, it seems to me that the sprays are way better.

I find that it takes a few visits to take effect, for me second time was the charm and 3rd time even better. You should mix it with something, by itself the effects are not worth exploring IMO. I get great results with SOB mix with XIST.

[Bloodburn]

I agree that Xist for me is also a good addition to combos not by itself unless you want to reset someone's thought of you that day.

[Scottie2Hottie]

Can't get enough of these posts, thanks Sensei

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[MRSNAKE]

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