XS177 – Brute

[Xcc]

ANDROCLES Thank you for posting about your experience and background. I've been using mones for about 10+ years, but in all fairness... more like one year repeated 10 times...

When my supplier disappeared, I felt a bit panicked because there was so much garbage out there. I didn't know what to do. Then I found Liquid Alchemy Labs, Pheromone Treasures. and PheromoneXS.

By the way in addition to SOB if you like Brute, you might want to check out...

https://pheromonexs.com/XS148-Destroyer

https://pheromonexs.com/XS149-Rone-Love

I don't know about you, but taking a class on research design was very helpful for observations. If you have a systematic way of testing, I'd love to hear about it.

[ANDROCLES]

ANDROCLES Thank you for posting about your experience and background. I've been using mones for about 10+ years, but in all fairness... more like one year repeated 10 times...

When my supplier disappeared, I felt a bit panicked because there was so much garbage out there. I didn't know what to do. Then I found Liquid Alchemy Labs, Pheromone Treasures. and PheromoneXS.

By the way in addition to SOB if you like Brute, you might want to check out...

https://pheromonexs.com/XS148-Destroyer

https://pheromonexs.com/XS149-Rone-Love

I don't know about you, but taking a class on research design was very helpful for observations. If you have a systematic way of testing, I'd love to hear about it.

Don't for get Apex! Lol. Seriously though, thank you Xcc! When I have the time, I'll provide you my process. I've got some stuff on Pherotruth if you search my write-ups on some items I've experimented with. Keep in mind, I don't post failures as much, but I should. It does tend to trigger a sensitivity trip wire with people who play on forums ALL day.

But in any case: If I post a "success": I get the "Paradox" response, such as "newbie is experiencing placebo". If I post a failure, then "I've used too much or I need to combo it.""Newbie doesn't have the dosages right"- whatever...blah..blah..



At the end of the day, Brute is a great blend. If I had just wrote that one-line, I'll have to respond to 100 questions and passive aggressive insults.

You know how it goes! :-)

[kingtut savage]

I don't really want to pee all over this report but it looks like a newbie "I was getting looks and smiles" report. It looks like the user has the Newbie Placebo Syndrome (I just coined that phrase). Just because you are wearing pheromones and a woman smiles at you that doesn't mean that she has fallen for you. Women smile. People smile. It's normal.

People (women included) smile, are polite and flirty. Nothing written above demonstrates over the top behavior. people touch when talking. They smile.

It's a detailed report though...

This is true but there is a difference between a regular smile and a phero induced one. When I first started using pheros, I didn't even think they worked. Then I started seeing a difference

[Xcc]

ANDROCLES You are welcome. Again this is why I think it's important to find something that works for you. I used Brute and I got... well, my guess is you read my write up by now. Api and Wolf are better go to's for me.

I did appreciate such a thorough report. Thanks!

[Xcc]

ANDROCLES and kingtut savage I like to think of:

1) is there an increase or decrease in certain behaviors from others? (quantitative difference)

2) is there an increase or decrease in the intensity, frequency, or duration of certain behaviors from others? (qualitative difference)

I know there are some men here who before pheromones were ignored by others. No smiles. No greetings. No respect. Then they use pheromones and people are smiling at them. That is a difference. Maybe not the dramatically hot and sexy difference we had hoped for, but it is a difference.

[kingtut savage]

Well said

[Xcc]

ANDROCLES One more thing, I'd love to see your process by which you observe and write up.

[ANDROCLES]

ANDROCLES and kingtut savage I like to think of:

1) is there an increase or decrease in certain behaviors from others? (quantitative difference)

2) is there an increase or decrease in the intensity, frequency, or duration of certain behaviors from others? (qualitative difference)

I know there are some men here who before pheromones were ignored by others. No smiles. No greetings. No respect. Then they use pheromones and people are smiling at them. That is a difference. Maybe not the dramatically hot and sexy difference we had hoped for, but it is a difference.

Yes.

Yes.

Just in the opposite effect too. My Exotica notes are quite the opposite of Brute. Almost negative. I posted on PheroTruth. I actually dislike Exotica. I have 2 full bottles and quite the testing done. It doesn't agree with me in my tests.

When I don't wear mones, my natural observations are somewhere in between these two zones most of the times. There are times when I don't have remarkable notes on Brute. When the time is right, I post the most exciting notes. What happened at StarBucks has not happened every time. I go there everyday. Different people. Different times. Those days I noted was the best of Brute in observation only. Not too much talking or interaction involved. I like what I saw from Brute because I didn't have to keep messing with dosages. Brute worked they way liked right off the bat. Very little in dosage. It got me excited. I was surprised. With Exotica, I had to keep trying different things. The common denominator with Exotica is that I noticed people were rude to me. I was in Beta zone. That observation of rudeness keep rearing its ugly head after hundreds of notes. That 'rudeness' observation keep frequent count.

This all being said. I'm experienced to tell when the hits are generally mone related. I would guess in approximation, I'm about 75% accurate on considering/evaluating a mone related IOI or not. That is not saying 75% are mone hits! I'm saying my accuracy of judging is reasonably 75%. Some situations are harder to pinpoint a mone influence. My next observation set I post will demonstrate or explain this.

[ANDROCLES]

7/18
More observations – No combo, Brute solo.
Location: Corner Bakery
Tango assessment: My guy friend and a female job recruiter.


My friend is on the market for a new job. He is currently employed, but wants more money. It was my day off (having a Mon off is makes 3 day weekend). He tells me he has this head-hunter that has called him a couple times and she would like to meet for coffee and chat about the market in the career field he’s in.

He calls and wakes me up, and asked me to join him at a particular time.

I wasn’t doing much in the morning, but trying to sleep! Fine, I’ll do this for a friend.

It’s a casual meet and greet and talk about available positions. No need to dress up and clean up nicely. However, it’s an opportunity to continue testing Brute. Why not?

I paint Brute usual pattern on the left and right arm and on the neck. I’m getting use to the smell because it’s not a rancid like the first time.

I head over to my buddy’s house and we take his truck. (Nice Nissan Titan, full options. 4X4. Silver.)

He’s all happy and smiles.

“What the fuck dude” I say. “No, baseball cap?”….”What’s with this cleaned up shit?”- I give him a hard time.

My bud (Chris) is dressed up in a dress shirt, jeans, gelled up hair, cologne (D&G The One – I recognize that juice) and nice shoes. Gold bracelet his girl gave him (cheesy). Normally,----or every time I fucken see him, it’s base-ball cap, t-shirt, shorts, flip flops, no damn cologne, and heavy deodorant.

He says something like, “the recruiter says this one gig is at “________ “ (which is a town very close to us. He’s looking at a 15 minute commute with traffic)

We pull out and head to the Corner Bakery.

He’s yapping and yapping. Like his normal self but more happy mood. We talk about the weekend and how I've been busy. –normal things.

Chris holds the door open for me. I was sleepy, but it’s been an hour since application and now I’m wired up. I feel spunky. More bass in me voice. Minor jaw clench sensation.

Immediately. Hot chica. Spanish descent. This is a damn “deer in the headlights”. She was moving across our path, but paused as soon as I came in. I paused. This may or may not be because of Brute. My bud and I are decent looking guys or just naturally surprised her.

That’s when I sum her up (solid 7, nice body, nice tits, nice legs, gorgeous face, those lip glossed lips). She could be daydreaming about getting straws and napkins and we surprised her. Whatever. Androcles: 1 … IOI: counter 0.

Resume.

She walks to her table with some dude. He looks at me and raises his head to expose his neck, like a “What’s up?” pose, because I was checking out her legs. Nice and appears oiled. She’s in short-shorts, t-shirt blouse thingy and sneakers. No tats on legs. (my preference) I give him a virtual fist-bump in my imagination. Way to go bro! He’s tapping that ass every night. LOL

Chris says wait. He starts texting on his phone. Probably the recruiter. I’m ready for coffee and the overhead menu. Two cute girlies as cashiers. (7 & 7). Short and taller. Chris does that to his phone. I type a few notes into my iphone. Then I don’t wait. I just keep going to the back of the short line.

I rotate my neck slowly like Arnold in Terminator, scanning the environment. The place is packed. It’s early and lemmings-like-clock-work galore. Lots of career professionals. The two customers ahead are serviced and out of my way. (Middle-aged couple. Fat dude, fat wife, they look like nice successful people though ready to pounce on the multiple item, kilo-calories order they drummed up)

I spin back around to the cashier delighted to see me. The 7 blondie is cute. She’s all smiles. It’s sunny outside. She probably has a boyfriend and they went to a theme park to ride a roller coaster this past Saturday. She quickly uploaded photos to FaceBook to stick her friends. …………I’m kidding!

I feel like Bradly Cooper on “NZT” from Limitless.

“How can I help you sir?” – she says or something like that. I didn’t note exact words. I don’t think Brute is doing anything here I can distinguish. Her sidekick cashier (let’s call her Kim) keeps looking at me while taking orders and keeps looking back. She only smiled 3 times. She did it so many times I noted: 13 fucking times! I was only there for 5 minutes. Kim is a solid 7. Older than my blondie cashier. Taller. Big tits. Medium build. Light makeup. Caucasian brunette. Say 28 ish?”

“I’ll have some fresh young pussy, with some coffee please”. – Of course, this didn’t come out.

I give my order. Chris comes behind me.

He says “Dude, let the recruiter pay”, I’m like “It’s alright bro, she’s here for you, not me”. “Where is she?”

Chris says, “She’s going to be here in 5”.

I’m thinking. Late…unprofessional. Embarrassing. Get a grip Androcles. It’s only 5 minutes.

Chris decides.. fuck it and buys his own breakfast and coffee. We sit down.

Older Spanish guy. Looks like a manager or team lead, brings us our food. He looks me straight in the eyes. Like a stern look. Very odd. No smiles. Then he smiles. He regroups his composure and says “Do you need some salt? Pepper?Ketchup? hot sauce? we have everything over there…”“Please enjoy”. Grabs our plasticard number and goes back to the kitchen area.

Chris and I begin eating and chatting.

The recruiter finally arrives. Chris is excited, he eats fast, drinks fast and is done. Stands up and to meet her and shakes hands.

I’ve got a mouth full of crushed bacon bits, minced eggs and cheese like a jackass. And .....Ketchup probably.

I choke that shit down in rapid succession so I can say something like “Hi!” Hopefully, not shooting food into her eye either.


She’s decked out to the nines. Business attire, sexy skirt, suit jacket, high heels, lots of perfume ( I know: Marc Jacob: Daisy O fresh something), make-up. Curled porn-style, duo-colored hair. She is cute. (Two-toned dirty blonde with streaks, solid 7, nice big titties, slightly overweight, but not much). Hoop earrings.

She’s got bags under her eyes like she hasn’t slept from a night out drinking and banging. –There goes my imagination again. I shake her hand. Nice dry and soft. I have rough hands and was concerned that my calluses would be embarrassing to the touch.

Her name is Sam. (Probably a Samantha). Chris is all giddy. He puts his hand on my shoulder and tells her he brought me along in case he needed protection….he was just joking and wanted to say something stupid and potentially funny.

She ate it up and laughed. She was all smiles too. Very talkative. She looked at me with huge eyes and a refreshing face. Happy go lucky look. While they talk for a moment. I’m getting in key words for notes into my iphone.

I type in “key” words and numbers as a reminder mnemonic for larger sentences that jog my memory for observation notes like this. She caught me and says “You typing a long email there Androcles?!?”

I reply “Yeah, my mom”… I got a chuckle from both she and Chris.

Chris is a good guy. They chat for minute more and he asks her what she wanted, but she offered to go with him and pay. He told her to sit tight and for me to keep her company and he would go get her some food and coffee.

I know what Chris does, but I play dumb and ask her about positions she has and questions about it. I jokingly tell her not to find him a contract job, but a full time employment because Chris has 3 kids in Paraguay that need support. She was credulous at times. She’s young. I took advantage for laughs. She laughed after the truth reveal. I brag about Chris’ character and tell her all good things about him when he was away from us.

At the end of the day, most of what I say about hyping up Chris is sort of irrelevant because she is not the decision maker of the position. Her client is. I just wanted to chit chat to see Brute do anything. It’s hard to tell in a situation like this because recruiters are often flirty to get you engaged with clients they make money off of.

I've got to work on other things, so I have to curtail this moment.

Condensed Notes:

1. She keeps playing with her hair and pulling her curls downward.

2. Her blouse is unbuttoned and she leans forward often. All recruiters that are sexy do this. She is fidgety though.

3. She keeps twirling her shoes off. Especially when she catches me looking down at her feet. She keeps it up.

4. She doesn’t look around much. She is only focused on Chris and me back and forth during conversation.

5. She talks with her hands, it helps display her well done French-manicured nails. It also takes my eyes off her face for a moment. I keep looking because she’s cute and I feel horned up.

6. She gets unnerved when I stare at her in the eyes. The pupils are dilated. She does this eye squint thingy. Maybe she thinks it sexy.

7. She laughs at everything Chris and I say it appears. I wasn’t that funny. I’m better on alcohol than caffeine.

8. She is so flirty with touching Chris on the arm and she did it to me once before she told a personal story. This might not be Brute induced totally, but I suspect Brute made this more pronounced like the way M3X can influence touching when people are comfortable.

9. When she reached down into her massive hand bag, I saw a tattoo on her forearm.

10. I used that as opportunity to inquire. It reads “Everything I’m not makes me everything I am”. She's from the South. Georgia peaches when she answered my question.

11. She told Chris she’s not a good girl sometimes. Whatever purpose that was. I noted that.

12. Chris (dumbass) acts like he’s in love. Good for him. At least he’s happy. She’s happy. I’m happy.

13. This whole meeting really was about being social. Everything important could have been done electronically. She already has his resume and I’m sure Chris talked to her on the phone several dozens of times.

14. They talked some more. She invited us both to a bar hop in the city with her friends, non-professionally of course.

15. Chris didn’t tell her about his girlfriend and I wasn’t going to punk him out. He did the same for me. If she didn't ask....well...J/K. It just didn't happen. I wanted to see more. I later told Chris on the drive back, in the truck, "Oh hell naw!" when he considered this craziness with this recruiter proposal about joining a bar hop. He was too excited.

16. We just concluded the meeting breakfast social, but she was really flirty with Chris it seems. In my experience, most all (head-hunters) act like this on these meets. She was just on fire if I were to compare to others from the past.

17. I was just fodder bounce opportunity when they both felt awkward in conversation pauses. I played along.

18. Cashier Kim keeps looking at me. Before we leave, she waves at me.

Guys, I get at least an IOI count of 1. Hahaha. give me that.


I'll provide more situation notes as time permits. I'm behind a couple weeks on this. I had to condense writing towards the latter half.

[ANDROCLES]

ANDROCLES One more thing, I'd love to see your process by which you observe and write up.

I appreciate your appreciation of my observations XCC.

It is a juggle of trying to conduct a hidden test, communicate and interact with people. All the while, doing due-diligence to keep memories together and in order. Organized and detailed notes as much as I deem relevant. Thank life for an iPhone. All this would not be possibly done correctly and appear natural without technology.

This is by no means a professional, scientific study or highly accurate controlled testing with systematic guidelines. It is a common-sense, social sense approach, high in E.Q. evaluation. No better test environment than the real world.

A margin of error of 25% in accuracy due to truly gauging a none effect based on my interpretation and perception from my experience with NO mones or other mones. It's subjective and my write-ups will invite scrutiny and skepticism. I'm okay with that. I just don't want someone to insult or disrespect me using my write-ups, implying I'm a newbie tester in practice--nobody has that right. No need to address me as "The user". That's rude. I have no way to prove BRUTE is the bomb for anyone. My current half full bottle is great for me!

I want to be very clear and straight up. No made up BS in my observations where the truth counts.

My method:

I grab my iPhone, If I'm in a conversation I just text a key word that helps me remember the mone incident or response from people. And the "best" of what they say.

If I'm standing alone. I just type as many details as I can. I pretend I'm chit chatting by text to a friend or composing an email.

Later, I spend hours trying to put the details together with honesty as much as I can do. I do add my personality for humor.

That's it. Real world testing from a guy who is not good at Chemistry.

[Xcc]

ANDROCLES Thank you for posting your process about taking notes, etc. The true noobies might learn a thing or two...

[Ragnar Lothbrook]

I second that ANDROCLES. A big thanks, and thanks for adding the humor. I like it.

[ANDROCLES]

Thanks guys! More to come...

[Ragnar Lothbrook]

Lucy Liu??? To each his own.