newbie here (Need help!!)

[OppaiDesu]

im new in phero world,my first purchase is taboo and xist

almost buy three with evolve but then i take taboo and xist since i though both already a good combo to go plus i read many feedback that both a good combo ...

so my question is
•me and my friend always hang out together after work,usually we chill at ocean view restaurant 4men 5female all work at the same place and department.i like this one girl for 2month now but dont think she looks at me as a boyfriend material maybe just a friend probably im already in her friendzone(dang)
so i want to know does xist+taboo a good combo to use,i wanna ask her out for a date so that we can spend time together probably watch movie at cinema,dinner(pizza maybe?),maybe some gift shop and go home.

[Primross]

im new in phero world,my first purchase is taboo and xist

almost buy three with evolve but then i take taboo and xist since i though both already a good combo to go plus i read many feedback that both a good combo ...

so my question is
•me and my friend always hang out together after work,usually we chill at ocean view restaurant 4men 5female all work at the same place and department.i like this one girl for 2month now but dont think she looks at me as a boyfriend material maybe just a friend probably im already in her friendzone(dang)
so i want to know does xist+taboo a good combo to use,i wanna ask her out for a date so that we can spend time together probably watch movie at cinema,dinner(pizza maybe?),maybe some gift shop and go home.

Sounds like a perfect combo you chose well. Just keep in mind a lot of work you have to do on your own

[OppaiDesu]

will do,this next tuesday ..i have a date with her.cant wait to try..yeah maybe ur right..i try xist first n see the result..

[Bloodburn]

Why not just use Xist solo first so you know if it works on your target? SteveO mentioned about adding Taboo little by little to add some sexual tension in some thread way back then but only when you know Xist is creeping up on your target over time.

[OppaiDesu]

will do,this next tuesday ..i have a date with her.cant wait to try..yeah maybe ur right..i try xist first n see the result..

[Primross]

That's good advice by bb

[zeratul]

will do,this next tuesday ..i have a date with her.cant wait to try..yeah maybe ur right..i try xist first n see the result..

Yeah, start with lower dosage and one type of product first to understand how it works. Looking forward to hear the date update!

[Primross]

Just remember xist takes many hours of exposure and you have to pull away now and then for it to work

[OppaiDesu]

today observation
after evening shower straigh left my house to take her to mall,before arriving at her house i stop at the corner of her house spray some xist 2 spray actually each one behind my ear plus i want the car smell of it(pheromone car fragrance ????)wait for 5minute then i go to her house..after that call her im in front of her house then she left the house and enter my car..while driving to the mall she say i smell nice/good the car also (i bet thats the pheromone doing)and she kinda chatty(also bet its the pheromone) reach the mall straigh to the movie counter to buy ticket .luckly got the early time slot have to wait 10minute before the movie time.so we sit at the waiting room provided by the cinema.then we enter the gate 4 seat 10D 11D..movie start (ads for 4minute)while watching notice nothing happen ,no cuddle no sudden change no nothing just 2 people watching movie together after the movie end we grab some light snack then walk some shop to buy thing.she want to buy shirt btw she ask my opinion which shirt look nice even ask me to follow her to dressing room i wait outside she ask which one nice try 5 shirt diffrent style and colour..h&m shop btw..ended by singlet and hoodie ..then she decide to go home..we left then she say thank you and everything..say she call me later

[OppaiDesu]

do reply for any tips and advice..

[Primross]

today observation
after evening shower straigh left my house to take her to mall,before arriving at her house i stop at the corner of her house spray some xist 2 spray actually each one behind my ear plus i want the car smell of it(pheromone car fragrance ????)wait for 5minute then i go to her house..after that call her im in front of her house then she left the house and enter my car..while driving to the mall she say i smell nice/good the car also (i bet thats the pheromone doing)and she kinda chatty(also bet its the pheromone) reach the mall straigh to the movie counter to buy ticket .luckly got the early time slot have to wait 10minute before the movie time.so we sit at the waiting room provided by the cinema.then we enter the gate 4 seat 10D 11D..movie start (ads for 4minute)while watching notice nothing happen ,no cuddle no sudden change no nothing just 2 people watching movie together after the movie end we grab some light snack then walk some shop to buy thing.she want to buy shirt btw she ask my opinion which shirt look nice even ask me to follow her to dressing room i wait outside she ask which one nice try 5 shirt diffrent style and colour..h&m shop btw..ended by singlet and hoodie ..then she decide to go home..we left then she say thank you and everything..say she call me later

What did you do to escalate?

[OppaiDesu]

none actually

[Primross]

Well if you want something to happen you're gonna have to. Women get bored fast of guys that won't escalate.

[OppaiDesu]

but my first gf is asian and i didt use pheromone..after that been single for long time .or maybe my game already rusty? any tips?

[Primross]

Start small with the escalations first small touches here and there and then try putting your arm over her. Make sure she knows you are comfatable. Your first goal is the kiss so lead up to that

[Muestereate]

I always felt that arm over girl was smothering, I guess it works well for you?

[OppaiDesu]

today update
my day off(offday)
use 2 spray xist front neck and back neck because today got plan with her because she ask me to acompany her to flower shop,she like rose.
when arrive at flower shop she holds my hand..i think im out from friendzone because she starting to open up to me .giggle,adjusting her hair,.after finish paying for the rose.enter the car..she thanks me at kiss me ????

[OppaiDesu]

will update later..still with her now..after we put the flower in her vase at home.she plans to go to the mall

[Muestereate]

I'm impressed.

[OppaiDesu]

thanks.. @muesterate

[Primross]

today update
my day off(offday)
use 2 spray xist front neck and back neck because today got plan with her because she ask me to acompany her to flower shop,she like rose.
when arrive at flower shop she holds my hand..i think im out from friendzone because she starting to open up to me .giggle,adjusting her hair,.after finish paying for the rose.enter the car..she thanks me at kiss me ????

Conradulations but she did all the escalating be careful

[OppaiDesu]

yea..sound like it..does that mean im in trouble or im good so far? but i tot its normal for girls to do that? ????

[Primross]

They can but you likely lose a lot of masculinity in her eyes

[OppaiDesu]

thanks..will do better next date..this sunday..????

[zeratul]

Start small with the escalations first small touches here and there and then try putting your arm over her. Make sure she knows you are comfatable. Your first goal is the kiss so lead up to that

Quiet fast to get a kiss from Asian women, perhaps she adapts westernized culture. Is she East Asian or Southeast Asian? (Judging by your user name, I guess she is a Japanese)

I second Primross suggestion, do escalation little by little: more eye contact and playfully kino

[OppaiDesu]

damn it..why is the comment limit to 200word????

[OppaiDesu]

thanks i will take it slow and steady.yes we both eye contact everytime hang out together,we both adapt western culture

[Muestereate]

don't use comment, learn use the quote feature instead. Message count leads to discounts Quote post can exceed 200 and improves post count.

[zeratul]

They can but you likely lose a lot of masculinity in her eyes

He'll lose lots of masculinity after get a thank you (cheek, I guess) from her (?)

[OppaiDesu]

so thats means im good right? its normal right to get kiss at the cheek..

[zeratul]

OppaiDesu you would better quote the post you want to reply, than comment it. Like the post I mentioned you before

[OppaiDesu]

okey..will try later..use smartphone the screen realy small i hv big finger..dang

[Primross]

Just remember it's the man's job to escalate you will do fine

[KateD]

I believe it is not bad that she held your hand and gave you a kiss. Maybe she senses you are shy and wants to show you that it is ok to be affectionate with her.

However, now that she showed you she is comfortable with touches it would be bad if you were to be laid back and not show more initiative

Remember, don't always do what she wants you to do. I am not saying be aggressive but show some Alpha.

Every so often if she wants to do something, say I want to do this instead

Don't be too quick to give her what she wants and pick up the phone etc. Mystery, make her work for it


Even in marriage it is still a game of luring the person you love into you. I guess it is just human nature

[Primross]

I believe it is not bad that she held your hand and gave you a kiss. Maybe she senses you are shy and wants to show you that it is ok to be affectionate with her.

However, now that she showed you she is comfortable with touches it would be bad if you were to be laid back and not show more initiative

Remember, don't always do what she wants you to do. I am not saying be aggressive but show some Alpha.

Every so often if she wants to do something, say I want to do this instead

Don't be too quick to give her what she wants and pick up the phone etc. Mystery, make her work for it


Even in marriage it is still a game of luring the person you love into you. I guess it is just human nature

Good advice