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  • XSP83 substitute for Beta-THDOC?

    Hello community folk!

    I'm curious if anyone has had experience with both of these molecules solo, and if so, have you noticed similarities?

    I have xsp83 but I have never worn B-THDOC solo to compare. I like B-THDOC in blends and I know I may be reaching here without a proper comparison. I'm basically riding on xsp83 being a disinhibitor and having similar "feelings" while wearing blends with B-THDOC...which I know is completely subjuctive...

    I was doing some home tinkering and thought that xsp83 could be a good substitute for B-THDOC.

    Can anyone offer any thoughts or have any testing you've done on the two that you would be willing to share?



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    P83 gave me a butterflies in the stomach type of anxiety. Not sure if B-THDOC has that effect or not.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Metaltree View Post
      P83 gave me a butterflies in the stomach type of anxiety. Not sure if B-THDOC has that effect or not.
      Oh my! I haven't gotten that from p83.
      I usual use 1, maybe 2, sprays.
      What was your dose? And was that solo, or in combination with something else?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by NuTrix View Post

        Oh my! I haven't gotten that from p83.
        I usual use 1, maybe 2, sprays.
        What was your dose? And was that solo, or in combination with something else?
        I have tried it from 10 mcg all the way up to 100 mcg. I did self effect testing at home but never wore it out solo. The greater the dose, the higher the anxiety.

        I get anxiety from enone too but the P83 anxiety was different. The enone anxiety is more of a sense of dread while the P83 was more of the butterflies anxiety.

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        • #5
          I believe there was a discussion about this on pherotruth. People on both sides of the camp. As you know, I am a firm believer in the effects of Beta-THDOC in certain blends, so if it WAS the same as P83, that'd be awesome. I have not personally seen the same effects from adding P83 to blends as I get from it in things like LFN (if that is indeed what it is coming from.) . But there is also the synergistic workings at play that might make it come across differently.

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