Travel bottles and spilage

[Bloodburn]

I got half a notion to try burning off some of this alcohol or boiling it off and replace with dpg, iso-e or timbersilk. just have to get the lab equipment, lest i spill shit I'm trying to conserve.

It will affect the formula for sure but let us know how it pans out.

[Muestereate]

I'm just looking for a stopper and a tube. Maybe something to hold the bottle in a pot of heated water. If I heat the water to around 75c the alcohol should start to evaporate. If I can find a cheap boiling flask or still apparatus, even better.

Man has been boiling the alcohol out of mixtures for a long time.

[Bloodburn]

Have you checked if Perfumer's Apprentice has what you need?

[Bloodburn]

Just had my big leaks with my new PXS order I just received today. All 10ml spray bottles in sealed plastic bag. I can see every bottle nozzle heads is wet.

There is air inside the bag so pressure must have built up inside the bag. So far one Barely Legal lost 20% of liquid, another BL bottle maybe 10%, and Crush lost 10%. Other bottles are still mostly full. It’s funny that these 3 are the one I bought and are beta/artisan mixes, the rest were prize from the contest and are PXS regular mixes

It’s sad that Barely Legal is the rare mix now and the precious liquid leaked .

[Muestereate]

Take pictures before you unseal the bag? Contact customer service before you open the bag?

I'm finding my own personal habits are not securely double checking the cap. When I spray i'm usually holding clothing or balancing bottles at the same time and I don't fully snap the lid and twist the sprayer.

My losses look to have slowed since I double check and snap the caps. I'm inside an insulated box so temp extremes are less likely. The outside of the box is 60 to 80 degrees. I could move it into a more stable spot come to think of it.

I'm sticking with siphon Idea. The products i have not primed by using them are stable for the last week or so.

[Bloodburn]

Yes, first thing I did was taking pictures. I contacted support and the bag is still sealed.

These bottles are new so I guess even they're not primed, they still leak from pressure.

[Muestereate]

I recall a similar delivery in the summer, can you check for tight sprayers? I mean instead of the caps. There are three possible leak points. 1 or even all could be culprits. We have the siphon idea and though your package probably flew, since they weren't primed, we can rule that out. 2nd is simply are the caps screwed on tight. I've noticed these threads are loose tolerance, they loosen it seems by themselves. It could be temp shifts but the bottle and sprayer seem similar materials. Lastly, could it be the fitting between the nozzle head and the sleeve it slides up and down in? I've never gotten a physical drip but its the only other place I can think the leaks might come from.

[Bloodburn]

I think it’s because the bag also leaked so that air could get inside. It’s now like an air cushion bag. All my previous orders were all flat without air inside the bags.

I believe the leaked point is the nozzle that I could clearly see. The nozzle caps have liquid splattered inside all of them.

Now if anyone who are having issues with leaks and have a vacuum machine or can do the water vacuum trick, seal bottles inside a ziplock bag then go test if vacuum sealed bag helps.

[Muestereate]

Its hard for air to leak in and inflate the bag. The barometric pressure in Tennesee was probably low or the temperature was cold on the day the bag was sealed.

[Oncearound]

Update #4.

Tried the PXS 10ml bottles and some bottles from Amazon in a water tight Plano tackle box.
Failure.
The water tight box did not make a difference.
I also took 9 2ml togo bottles and as far as I can tell, they did not leak.
Also 1 3ml bottle of AV oil, it leaked a little but I think I did not have the cap on tight enough.

I just order some 5 ml bottles from AFF and will be testing those soon.

[Muestereate]

teflon tape for the threads just came to mind.

[Bloodburn]

Update #4.

Tried the PXS 10ml bottles and some bottles from Amazon in a water tight Plano tackle box.
Failure.
The water tight box did not make a difference.
I also took 9 2ml togo bottles and as far as I can tell, they did not leak.
Also 1 3ml bottle of AV oil, it leaked a little but I think I did not have the cap on tight enough.

I just order some 5 ml bottles from AFF and will be testing those soon.

I think the best possible way is to replicate what PXS does when shipping oil with spray. Take the cap with the tube out and find a regular bottle cap to screw it shut?

[Oncearound]

I think the best possible way is to replicate what PXS does when shipping oil with spray. Take the cap with the tube out and find a regular bottle cap to screw it shut?

Defeats the purpose of what I am trying to do. Simplicity.
Not to mention, it wont be long until the tubes get mixed up and cross-contamination will ensue.

[Bloodburn]

The only way I can think off now is vacuum the bag and seal it. Without vacuum machine, we could submerge the 2/3 part of zip-lock bag under water.

[nephil]

I just used parafilm tape again, worked like a charm.

[Oncearound]

I just used parafilm tape again, worked like a charm.

Gonna have to pick up some and try it. Sadly, I have been grounded for a couple of weeks for sinus issues.
For the past couple of months every time I go out locally, the weather has been shit and not much of a female crowd to try out my purchases.

[Muestereate]

My bottles seem to have stabilized. I noticed the spray bottle caps have two notches when you snap thenm down. whenever I put mine away i just tap down on the lids. I always get a snap or two and the next day it happens again. I may try the film on the lids as well as the threads.

[Bloodburn]

I've read about that parafilm as well. I may have to buy some myself.

Another trick that perfume decant sellers use is using PTFE tape to seal the threads of the bottle.

[Muestereate]

I suspect they are the same thing

[Bloodburn]

Parafilm is used to cover the cap down to the neck. You will have to tear off the parafilm first to use the sprayer but PTFE is used on the threads before screwing close the cap. Liquid may still leak through the nozzle but air or liquid cannot get in or leak out through the neck.

[NuTrix]

I use these:

https://www.amazon.com/Refillable-Atomizers-Metallic-Exterior-Interior/dp/B01JH76ON8/ref=sr_1_47?crid=22R9V0CTP888T&keywords=5ml+atomizer+glass&qid=1547950326&sprefix=5ml+at%2Caps%2C310&sr=8-47

Put plumbers tape:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/1-2-in-x-260-in-PTFE-Thread-Seal-Tape-PTT-5/204286187?cm_mmc=Shopping%7CG%7CBase%7CD25H%7CMulti%7CNA%7CPLA|71700000032394431|58700003837562558|92700037599062080&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=CjwKCAiAsoviBRAoEiwATm8OYOuWLzILPvyt8bM69ZC2PbUTZwcBs95_ufmLFx6EBpE-41jxWvytAxoCK44QAvD_BwE

over the screw, under the cap. Flying, the air pressure may push the liquid up the nozzle. Make sure the line is empty by spraying back into the bottle to empty the line (or spritz yourself, lol) reassemble and cap. So far I haven't had any issues with the plumbers tape, I just empty the line for good measure if flying. This works for me. My 2c