Bliss combinations !?

[idle]

Now that Bliss is back in stock please share your favorite combinations with it.

You can quote products from other companies too i dont think Steve will mind


For me
Bliss as a standalone + anything social and Alpha is the best combination.

For me Bliss give that self confidence push that i need sometime in hard situations

[Fleur]

I've used Bliss very succesfully with Alfa Donna.

I agree completely with you that the confidence Bliss adds goes very well with 'alpha' type of products. At the best men act as they're my servants doing everything to please me, when I'm wearing this combo. Feels like I'm the queen

[idle]

I am glad you agree with me ...
wow
its so funny and cool when reading results from the other team

And yea this is the main reason i like bliss. it just fills the missing alpha self effect from all other products around

[Fleur]

Yeah with my normal personality softer blends work better, but with Bliss there's no limits

[idle]

Just curius .. have you ever tried a sexual blend with bliss ?

Steve has quite the women arsenal for that.. the thing is... from my point of view
when i try Bliss with TUTH ,ammo, or even evolve i am looking like a real Alpha bad ass (bastard) ... Women hare this kind of
look .. but i just cant help it
i get all the Confidence from bliss and when i use an androstenone product it just get too much for the opposite sex.
i know its just me as i know my business in the past changed me allot and when i combine bliss + androstenone its too much even for a club for me.

but hey business is business and porn is porn
(people from phero talk will know what i am talking about)


Glad you are here Fleur so that we can share info and reaction from both sides

at least this time we are not getting censored

[Fleur]

It's slightly different for women. Any dominating product is basically also sexy as hell if a woman acts on it and does not wait for men to initiate. And vice versa any extreme sexual is also dominating, Men find intimidating women hot, I guess.

It's just that a woman needs to initiate unless dealing with a strong alpha male, which is rare. I have gotten this intimidating status even without any mones, just being myself and not pretending naive/stupid/easy. And if I appear like an intimidating woman, insecure men can't act on their attraction to me. And I myself can sometimes be too shy to initiate anything, depends on the mood and person I'm dealing with. That's where Bliss would be golden. With the right approach I have not seen anyone resisting, no matter how intimidating or weird I appear
But indeed those are my pre-mone experiences. Lately I've not been so much into getting new men. I guess I have to get back on my game to have more to report about mones.

Out of Steve's sexual blend I love Tease as it is since it goes with my personality well. It's a sexual with a social kick. Wearing it I stay in happy/positive mood, bathe in attention, get free food and free drinks etc.. And don't need anything added to make it work, since it's softer and does not make men to shy away from me, But I am quite sure that it would work just fine with Bliss too.

And yeah it's great to share experiences from both sides. I love reading mens reports

Did you mean that girls hate you appearing real badass?
There can be a dangerous vibe in a mans appearance indeed. I'd explain it like something that tells a girl that if she comes closer to that guy he will drag her to a dark alley and do all kind of funny stuff to her.
Most of the girls will stay away bc the dark alley thing is not really appealing. I'd say the only option is to make you appear safer to them, with behavior change or comfort mones.

But it's solely a mens thing, women can never be that dangerous in general

I myself have no problems dealing with dangerous looking guys, if only I can overcome my shyness, but it's only bc I don't really have much self preservation instincts whatsoever. Most of the ladies do.

[idle]

...unless dealing with a strong alpha male, which is rare.

Ouch ...
but sweetheart you know that we are all trying

And I myself can sometimes be too shy to initiate anything, depends on the mood and person I'm dealing with. That's where Bliss would be golden.

Exactly !
some times i feel like crap or just that i dont want to talk with anyone.
Everyone else notice this and it doesn't matter what kind of mones you are wearing...
people will see your bad vibe right away.

Bliss saved my ass several times already.
for men ... i strongly suggest bliss as a hangover cure
(will post more on that as soon as possible)

Out of Steve's sexual blend I love Tease as it is since it goes with my personality well. It's a sexual with a social kick. Wearing it I stay in happy/positive mood, bathe in attention, get free food and free drinks etc.. And don't need anything added to make it work, since it's softer and does not make men to shy away from me, But I am quite sure that it would work just fine with Bliss too.

As i see it bliss works with everything. Even just a heavy dose of bliss without anything else will be fine.
so far i see little effect when wearing bliss on others (my experience).
Bliss + great personality = incredible results (business, attraction, social ... what you do = what you get )

And yeah it's great to share experiences from both sides. I love reading mens reports.

yep me too
i really hope we get allot of those from both sides

Did you mean that girls hate you appearing real badass?

I myself have no problems dealing with dangerous looking guys, if only I can overcome my shyness, but it's only bc I don't really have much self preservation instincts whatsoever. Most of the ladies do.

Well kind of ... all the girls who love this bad ass personality are usually a one night stand

So shyness is a good think I think its protecting decent women from getting in to... trouble



ps: as you mentioned in your post: be your self ! be happy and use mones responsibly
just match the pheromone product with your personality

[Fleur]

...unless dealing with a strong alpha male, which is rare.

Ouch ...
but sweetheart you know that we are all trying

haha, sure know that
I never said it's a bad thing btw
just that definite alphas are only one small part of a large personality scale. There is much more options than just two

for men ... i strongly suggest bliss as a hangover cure
(will post more on that as soon as possible)

I should have read it earlier today. Would've tested if it does the same for women

As i see it bliss works with everything. Even just a heavy dose of bliss without anything else will be fine.
so far i see little effect when wearing bliss on others (my experience).
Bliss + great personality = incredible results (business, attraction, social ... what you do = what you get )

Yeah Bliss on it's own is acting like 'being yourself but better' type of product
Also completely safe for any environment

Well kind of ... all the girls who love this bad ass personality are usually a one night stand

So shyness is a good think I think its protecting decent women from getting in to... trouble

Nah.. some trouble is worth getting into
It's all about interesting personalities for me, not finding safe mate for nesting

But if girls end up being ONS on free will basis, that's usually what they initially wanted. And for that bad ass guys are a perfect catch. So I'm thinking you're mixing up cause and effect here

[KIMBA]

Idle, I like your Ascend + Bliss combination, but I LOVE my SOB + Bliss combo. Good lord it has slayed many unsuspecting women.

[idle]

lol and wow ... never tested sob + bliss

but by the sound of it i might give it a try really soon.
was this in clubs or parties ? or outside ?

as i see that mones act different in all those places.
well not different but more like different you need a different approach.

in clubs here we have great vents that suck everything up. so a heavy dose of mones is required (if you have only a few minutes of exposure).
but in the same time that dose can act against you if you are using it at a pary at your friend's house.
thats why i am asking for more details as sob is quite a potent stuff but can bring bad results if sed uncorrectly

[Grá Tara ar]

I find that using vanilla oil from auric blends with bliss really amps its effects for me. It even makes my angry middle eastern boss easy going and happy. Seriously, he's all smiles. Loving it.

[Shcshc11]

Idle, I like your Ascend + Bliss combination, but I LOVE my SOB + Bliss combo. Good lord it has slayed many unsuspecting women.

Kimba, do you use Bliss and SOB during the day too or solely during the night?
What other SOB-related combinations do you have? Bought it, can't wait to try it out.
I wonder if Connection + SOB would work (an odd combo?)

[KIMBA]

I shared quite a few exploits on PTruth about Bliss and SOB. I have used it at work, daygame, nightgame. I love the mix. I tend to get one of two reactions "Hey, I know you from somewhere" or "I dont know about you" sort of thing.

I go two sprays of SOB all the time. Its a LOT of Beta-Nol in their, and a LOT of eNone. The magic number for me of Beta-Nol getting 'hey I know you' is normally 100 mcg from my personal testing. Based on this, I think SOB has in the ball park of 50 Mcg per spray. Be sure to cover well! I need to use One Million when I use that much SOB because without it, I can't handle it. I have been told I reek and my cleaning habits questioned.

The most amazing reactions from SOB is when you sit near a woman for a few minutes and just ignore her existence. This is when I get women to open me and ask if they know me from somewhere. I prefer it in Bookstores, BJJ, Lounges. It hits fast and hard, dont get me wrong, but some women cant handle all that eNone. I go after the young one's so this mix has bitten me many a times.

Bliss takes the edge off. The self effects are outrageous. I get a level of Joyous Arrogance. I am happy, cocky, and in a euphoric state. I am a guy who tends to get scrappy and aggressive so it suits me well, as well as removing my resistance to being me.

When I use it during the day, I need to make sure to check my self and be charming. I still move FAST with it, but one thing I constantly see in my notes from SOB + Bliss days are 'Big Attraction, Familiar, Chatty, Outgoing". But I also see that this can be turned quick. That guy can be pushy, can come on too strong. I almost get resistance for being too aggressive. On the other hand, at night, when I let it ride out and go for the kill, older women let me. I still get some strong last minute resistance though. That is something I can handle, but if it is a woman you are serous about, dont push that hard. She is still attracted.

I guess if you were to change your game for this, I would run stronger qualification game. It is something I now do, I run a BIG attraction set, it is just my personality when even not gaming. I have people say, "Hey, she liked you" all the time. So I slow down and qualify. It is to the point where my most recent gal I am seeing (A keeper), I asked her three PUA 'Big Hoops' in a row without any release or set up. "Tell me your three best qualities that you think would make me want to get to know you" ; "Tell me your deepest, darkest secret you never told anyone" ; "I know you are not experienced, so tell me why you never got serious with a guy and why have you not been with many guys." These were pretty close to what I asked. All in a row for the most part. I mean, BIG qualification.

This sort of game works with SOB because it is familiar and attractive. You have an aura about you to men as well.

I am about to go on a diatribe, but you are correct Idle, the approach matter a LOT with pheromones. It is one of those secrets to success not many people realize. Mones help enhance you, so it is key to use what they accentuate and modify your game to it. Xist is high value, status, and chemistry in a bottle. A high value guy negs one, and the woman chases. Twice, she gets upset. Third time, she is gone. A low value guy negs once, she is intrigued. Twice, she tests his confidence. Third time, she accepts he has something else to him worthy of her time. A high value guy teases, and it is playful and fun. Low value teases and it is almost try hard. Sure, these are subtle differences in game, but over the past several years of PUA mumjo jumbo and going out pre mones and doing GREAT I know where I was at and how I carried myself. Now, I can't neg. I do it once, she chases. Twice, I can lose many women. Sure I do get tested, which I try to set up, but I often am so patronizing that I already jump through hurdles if I get any.

A guy like me personally, who despite flaws has rock solid confidence, is moderately successful, and has a rich enough life to talk and entertain people for over ten hours straight (I very recently did 12 hours of 'Game' on a group for a friend, which I plan to post about on the PTruth forum) without using 'canned' material, I dont need status. I also sat down and figured out what 'chemistry' was, and I also listened to PUA stuff on Chemistry and it is something I now naturally do with every person I meet. I make friends like crazy now. I have no use for Xist how I currently am, plus when you add in I consider myself a fighter (Aggressive, coach boxing, go after what I want) I dont get into a friend zone. Its a joke with my female friends now because we tool other guys who get friend zoned.

Now, if I were a bit nicer, and did not consider myself as 'Alpha' as I do, Xist would be my boo. Infact, SOB and Xist act under the same mechanisms for Aura IME. They completely elevate your persona. Its ironic that I love SOB, but I am so bastardized from game and going indirect, and years of filtering myself to be socially acceptable, that SOB helps pull that all out. But now, I am nice, always nice. But I am so outrageous, flirty, and touchy that I don't get into that friendzone. I also push the envelope with sexual humor often. All of this is under the veil of "I am the shit."

SOB works with me, rounds me out. I dont change anything. For some guys it will not help. I dont need or use socials often. I like Bliss for self effects, and Connections to drag out dirty laundry. But I am social and playful as it is. I can manipulate (Bad word for this but its what I have at the top of my head) people to learn what I need or get people chatting.

If I were to go out using heavy socials, I need to sit back and let others do the work for me. If I dont want to do the work, I will use more socials. But the work is the fun for me.

This is why I personally love AD's 297. The Beta, friendzone, over the top, IOI machine which can do no wrong on a platonic level is EPIC. I use it, and be me. I flow, am flirty, raunchy, nice, teasing, and entertaining. Toss in my over the top touching, as well as big qualification (I do have crazy standards for who I am close with. Most of my friends are friends because they actually give me things when we are together more so than personality at this point) and I get laid quite a bit with it.

If you use Cohesion, you have the balanced comfort, you need to make others interested in you, then arouse. If you wear Evolve, it is socially acceptable and sexually attractive, so you need to build comfort and have standards. For Bliss you need to build comfort, arouse, and do a little attraction. Every product does some of the work for you. Have enough repeat encounters with the product and you will learn quickly what exactly it does.

Back on topic. I DONT want to give people the wrong impression. Figure SOB out for your personality. If I had to strip it back for the generic use, the Bliss SOB combo would be:

1. Ride it out, be social and assertive.
2. Pick out IOI's then show you have standards (Qualify, make them pay for your time)
3. Ride it out more, get touchy.
4. Qualify AGAIN after she lets you get touchy.
5. Push the envelope, or Close how ever you can.

I do this during the day as well. The mix does this for you.

If you are like me and already are assertive and touchy, then you need to slow it down. Or if you are not at all assertive, and you struggle to even talk to a woman, I would say you need to PUSH and PUSH and PUSH and envelope, you will be surprised how far you go.

I do enjoy SOB and Bliss, not much else is GREAT. SOB is an interesting product. The high amount of Beta - Nol gives you the vibe aspect. Connections is a LOT of Beta Nol and can ruin the balance. I never liked it. Flirt is ok with SOB.

One combo I never got right was APi and SOB. I dont like products with conflicting self effects. I play with application points to make it work. I ran out of APi befire I made that breakthrough. I did get good results, but I felt cruddy.

Cohesion was fun with SOB. Go with Cohesion Oil on this combo so you dont disrupt the vibe of SOB.

I have more mone theory, such as using product for the type of gal you want. Short version is SOB is key on older and assertive women. Spanish women soak up SOB with a lot of IOI's and go after you after a while.

I can share more, just time to sleep now.

[NuTrix]

I have gotten Bliss to be congruent with me when I combined it with a social but it didn't seem go so great for me solo. Just kind of "meh"...buuuut...you all are inspiring me to give it another shot so maybe I won't throw in the towel just yet...I've been trying everything with DM+ lately...and now that I see the recommendation for combining it with alpha blends it seems like I should give it some more testing time.
Thanks for sharing in this thread everyone

[Shakes]

Idle, I tried your Ascend/Bliss combo today at work and I have to say I felt awesome! The Bliss took away from the seriousness of Ascend and the Ascend took away the spaced out feeling I get from bliss. I don't think I'll keep the combo for work, but an all around feel great combo this is. I felt almost *too* approachable for my job. I will definitely use this again socially.

[piper23]

I like bliss as a stand alone but even better when paired with other products that are high in 'none'. I usually get very aggressive when I wear products high in none and bliss just relaxes me to the point where I don't care and go with the flow . I have paired it wih ascend, l2k and my homemade brews and I find it goes well with any product or by itself. I am trying SOB with bliss on friday night so that should be interesting.

[KIMBA]

I have played with SOB + Bliss + Ascend quite a bit and cant complain about the results. It makes Bliss interesting.

[zephyr0s]

Someone should try Bliss,SOB& Astaxanthin
Bliss, Cohesion Evolve and Astaxanthin. Basically bliss and astaxanthin lol