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  • Metaltree
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    Originally posted by theLaw View Post
    Can't say that it's completely safe, but probably safer than the alternative.
    I suppose this would be like eating out a woman 24/7. Has anyone tried this experiment and evaluated any health effects besides suffocation?


    Originally posted by theLaw View Post

    Desire Me (scented - dose = as much as you can handle)

    Approach + Escalate + Isolate
    I had no idea the copulins could work on their own unless you are referring to the indirect effect testosterone can have on natural pheromone production.

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  • Metaltree
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    I most definitely get a stress reaction from enone.

  • Phoenix2886
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    Originally posted by theLaw View Post
    Thought I would post this as another (safer) option:

    Desire Me (scented - dose = as much as you can handle)

    Approach + Escalate + Isolate

    This will quickly weed out girls who aren't looking to hookup.

    Can't say that it's completely safe, but probably safer than the alternative.
    My Desire Me is unscented. What scent would recommend should I ever order it again?

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  • theLaw
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    Thought I would post this as another (safer) option:

    Desire Me (scented - dose = as much as you can handle)

    Approach + Escalate + Isolate

    This will quickly weed out girls who aren't looking to hookup.

    Can't say that it's completely safe, but probably safer than the alternative.

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  • theLaw
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    I went through the first 5+ years without an issue, but each person will probably respond differently.

  • Primross
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    Originally posted by theLaw View Post

    I noticed a bunch of issues with libido and erections. Also, a few bouts of lethargy, but no depression.

    Personally, I think that many of these chemicals are causing stress reactions in both the wearer and the target, and that those reactions are largely viewed as positive. For instance, when I tested BW I felt a surge of energy similar to what others have reported, but later realized that it was probably adrenaline (stress response) based on my symptoms. Keep in mind that Viagra, the largest selling drug in history, is based on stress by increasing NO.

    Many of these chemicals have not been studied in humans long-term, so this is a gamble. For me, I would rather have my health than a sledgehammer mix, but I also sympathize with guys who want to use them as they do appear to be very effective.

    In terms of actual ingredients, AndrostaDIENONE and ESTratetraenol seemed to get the worst reactions out of me.

    Bottom line: Sperm counts/Testosterone levels are plummeting, Transgenders are becoming mainstream, Guys are losing their hair in record numbers, and Every generation since x is less interested in sex than the last. For me, now doesn't seem like the best times to take risks with these untested chemicals.
    I haven't had any of these issues but I have only been using for about 2 years.

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  • theLaw
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    Originally posted by Muestereate View Post


    What health effect have you suffered that you believe could be caused by pheromones? That's a pretty big statement. Are they hormonal, vascular or neurological or digestive in nature?

    and another question if you don't mind, If you think any illnesses you have developed are incidental to pheromone use, How about dose dependency. I have only seen a few people using the doses you claim to have used and you have been using them in a very closed environment also.

    And I guess one more HAS to be asked. Which if any Pheromones do you attribute to your bad health effects. Why would you come on recommending such huge dosages of something that made you sick? Have Pheromones turned you into a sociopath maybe?

    Thanks
    I noticed a bunch of issues with libido and erections. Also, a few bouts of lethargy, but no depression.

    Personally, I think that many of these chemicals are causing stress reactions in both the wearer and the target, and that those reactions are largely viewed as positive. For instance, when I tested BW I felt a surge of energy similar to what others have reported, but later realized that it was probably adrenaline (stress response) based on my symptoms. Keep in mind that Viagra, the largest selling drug in history, is based on stress by increasing NO.

    Many of these chemicals have not been studied in humans long-term, so this is a gamble. For me, I would rather have my health than a sledgehammer mix, but I also sympathize with guys who want to use them as they do appear to be very effective.

    In terms of actual ingredients, AndrostaDIENONE and ESTratetraenol seemed to get the worst reactions out of me.

    Bottom line: Sperm counts/Testosterone levels are plummeting, Transgenders are becoming mainstream, Guys are losing their hair in record numbers, and Every generation since x is less interested in sex than the last. For me, now doesn't seem like the best times to take risks with these untested chemicals.

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  • theLaw
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    Not just enone, but many of the mones used in these mixes. Much like Est, what we might be seeing with enon is actually a stress reaction, so I don't want to risk it.

  • Phoenix2886
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    Originally posted by Muestereate View Post


    What health effect have you suffered that you believe could be caused by pheromones? That's a pretty big statement. Are they hormonal, vascular or neurological or digestive in nature?

    and another question if you don't mind, If you think any illnesses you have developed are incidental to pheromone use, How about dose dependency. I have only seen a few people using the doses you claim to have used and you have been using them in a very closed environment also.

    And I guess one more HAS to be asked. Which if any Pheromones do you attribute to your bad health effects. Why would you come on recommending such huge dosages of something that made you sick? Have Pheromones turned you into a sociopath maybe?

    Thanks
    In theLaw defense he recommended a mix that would achieve my goals but also mentioned he wouldn't do it based on health reasons. And I think in another post he alluded to a person having a mental breakdown. But I am also curious to hear more about possible health risks? I imagine A1 depression could cause some serious issues.

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  • Scottie2Hottie
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    Ive had several near death expectations























    becauseso many women have tried to fuck me to death.

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  • Muestereate
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    Originally posted by theLaw View Post

    I've had similar issues, and found that it appeared to be dictated by serotonin created by gut bacteria. If I took a hefty dose of activated charcoal (around 3 tbsp) in juice, it mitigated these symptoms significantly.

    Having said that, I no longer think that most pheromones are healthy, so I wouldn't wear any of these products.

    What health effect have you suffered that you believe could be caused by pheromones? That's a pretty big statement. Are they hormonal, vascular or neurological or digestive in nature?

    and another question if you don't mind, If you think any illnesses you have developed are incidental to pheromone use, How about dose dependency. I have only seen a few people using the doses you claim to have used and you have been using them in a very closed environment also.

    And I guess one more HAS to be asked. Which if any Pheromones do you attribute to your bad health effects. Why would you come on recommending such huge dosages of something that made you sick? Have Pheromones turned you into a sociopath maybe?

    Thanks
    Last edited by Muestereate; 12-03-2018, 12:34 AM. Reason: add quote for clarification

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  • Metaltree
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    Originally posted by theLaw View Post
    I ran pretty much every major product over the last few years while driving, but I have been recently working on my own natural mone production using Androsterone/DHEA/Pregnenolone with positive results so far. I might add some cops at some point, but only if it doesn't negatively effect my own androgen production.
    Looks like you are avoiding enone. Do you think enone can negatively effect your health or androgen production?

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  • Primross
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    Originally posted by theLaw View Post


    I wouldn't trade my health for anything that I've seen in ten years using pheromones. They're good, but they're not that good.
    They sure aren't miracles but they work. And I feel they are safe if used correctly.
    ???

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  • theLaw
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    Originally posted by Phoenix2886 View Post

    Whaaa....but you're theLaw! The Uber guy with the Sledgehammer mix?!

    I wouldn't trade my health for anything that I've seen in ten years using pheromones. They're good, but they're not that good.

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  • Phoenix2886
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    Originally posted by theLaw View Post

    I've had similar issues, and found that it appeared to be dictated by serotonin created by gut bacteria. If I took a hefty dose of activated charcoal (around 3 tbsp) in juice, it mitigated these symptoms significantly.

    Having said that, I no longer think that most pheromones are healthy, so I wouldn't wear any of these products.
    Whaaa....but you're theLaw! The Uber guy with the Sledgehammer mix?!

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  • theLaw
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    Originally posted by Primross View Post
    Yeah, cause I have heard horror storieses about people overdosing. I have been put in a bad depression or get very irritable when suffering an overdose
    I've had similar issues, and found that it appeared to be dictated by serotonin created by gut bacteria. If I took a hefty dose of activated charcoal (around 3 tbsp) in juice, it mitigated these symptoms significantly.

    Having said that, I no longer think that most pheromones are healthy, so I wouldn't wear any of these products.

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  • Primross
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    Originally posted by theLaw View Post

    I've tried higher doses of most of the major products and found fewer negative reactions across the board than I expected.

    Even 20 drops of BW, 6 sprays of LIIK, or 10 drops DP didn't really change reactions that much, but did increase projection (the cloud).

    Having said that, everyone has a different tolerance for how much they can wear, so it would depend on how much you can get away with.
    Yeah, cause I have heard horror storieses about people overdosing. I have been put in a bad depression or get very irritable when suffering an overdose

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  • Phoenix2886
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    Ah thanks!!

  • theLaw
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    Xist

  • Scottie2Hottie
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    Originally posted by Phoenix2886 View Post

    Is Domination unbuffered?

    PS I sent you a PM FYI...I think
    The Anone in Domination does help a bit but it's not to the extent of Evolve.

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