Your opinion on -enone, -rone and PSE in a mix in the daytime

[Rollerman]

ok, What I'm looking for this time is a mix that make girls take initiative for sex???? Girls being so horny that they can't help themselves but make a move(in the daytime).. impossible?

[theLaw]

The mix that you are describing does not exist.

Furthermore, your lack of ability to escalate means that you are not ready for casual sex. Casual sex is for men......not boys.

Remember, there are women predators out there as well...........beware of baby cobras!!!

[Rollerman]

theLaw If you don't have the knowledge to answer, then don't..

[theLaw]

I understand that you're frustrated, but the mix you want does not exist.

If there was a mix that made girls approach and escalate..........Stevo would be on Forbes 400 list.

But the real issue here is you. You want the mones to do all the work, but it simply doesn't work that way.

Every mix you use is handicapped by your lack of game.........hence the harsh words from me.

You've just stepped down a slippery slope where you want someone else to take control of your life, instead of taking the initiative.........this will end in failure.

Instead.....why not try approaching girls with different mixes and report your experience..........you're not afraid are you?

Look at it this way: worst case scenario, if you fail, then you have some experience to share, and a good story.........Win/Win!!! Most men will never try this........because they are afraid of the outcome...........or what is known as "reality".

Get out there man!!!.........Fail.....Fail.....Fail...........bu t what if you don't fail?................now that's really scary!!!

[Xcc]

Rollerman Your question is an understandable one and one that many men dream of.

Women get horny all the time without initiating or having sex. Although for a man horny may equal wanting sex, for a woman... no. Other things have to be in place, such as disinhibition, physical safety, privacy, what her friends will think, and so forth.

Women generally want a man who will lead and take initiative. By expecting them to approach you and take the initiative, then where is your leadership? That's the answer you don't want to hear.

To partially answer your question, the closest thing I know of to a product for women taking the initiative, would be a product with high amounts of alpha androstenol and xsp83 (or p83). Now that might make a woman approach you, but it may not get you the results you want.

If there was such a product to make women "do all the work" it would be talked about all the time on these forums.

As much as it sucks to read the above posts by theLaw I would encourage you to read them again. He is experienced with pheromones, social skills, and people in general.

[knowledgeispower]

+10000x what theLaw and Xcc say. Seriously, it doesn't exist. Mones can only make you attractive/arouse a girl, but guess what, women are social creatures too and they don't work that way. Read this:

http://pherotruth.com/Thread-Taboo-r...5832#pid115832

Long story short, there is no magic bullet, and you have to do a lot of the work. Just because a woman is aroused/horny/attracted to you doesn't mean she will just fuck you out of the blue. Copulins + eNONE help, but they can also backfire, especially if not buffered well.

To answer your question: There will always be easier women than others, and for that you probably will get the best hits you're looking for with SOB or pure cops like in Desire Me oil for men. But even then you have to drive the mones, pass the shit testing, and make the move; and even then its not guaranteed and can back fire even with the right girl.

[Rollerman]

Thank you for your time everyone. I really appriciate your insight,and sorry I have not been able to post lately.

Are u really experts?

I have been using pheromones for 5 years.

Mix of male and female alpha mones, something like ImpaXS, made ok for daytime usage is what I'm searching for...

Alpha dreams Donna amore actually made girls ask me to come home with them (5 sprays) .

Have any of you guys watched pick-up porn on the Internet? Many people say there.is is an appointment between the two, that they definetly have meet before. You can see from the girls reactions that this is not the case.. Ofcorse this has a lot to do with the mans pickup skills..

In my opinion there is such a product out there, but it is not sold commercially because of the mayhem it would cause.

[theLaw]

If you're referring to infield videos, PUA's use social pressure to get the girl to follow their lead......much stronger than any mone.

[Xcc]

Rollerman I don't think I'm an expert. I've been using mones for awhile though. If I understand it, you are looking for fast sex. Like same day lay. Is that right?

If so, you might be the one who discovers something. I don't know of a product for that. If there was, I think it would be talked about all over the pheromone forums.

You might know the best one because you said Donna Amore made women ask you to come home with them.

I wish I knew what to tell you.

[knowledgeispower]

Rollerman I've been using Mones since 2006 so that is 10 years. I wouldn't call myself an "expert" but I am well-experienced with mones. The reason we say there is no product like that is because mones, while can make a girl very attracted to you and horny, does NOT guarantee instant sex. Women are sexual just like men, but unlike men, the social barriers are bigger. They don't just act on sexual impulses like some men do (at least the majority do not). So while a product may exist to get a woman horny and wanting sex, it does not mean she will act on that impulse and initiate it (there will always be women who do, but the vast majority will not, mones or no mones). If you think otherwise, you're really misunderstanding how women are turned on in the first place.

[Rollerman]

I understand..
did you see fake taxi, Public agent or Property sex? ????

[theLaw]

Seriously???........you know that all of these women are paid......right? Please tell me this is a joke.......

[Rollerman]

theLaw what do you mean by social pressure? Im curious?

[theLaw]

Here is an extreme example: Derren Brown uses social pressure to convince a stranger to commit murder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3a21wiRtTs

On a more benign level, people are uncomfortable with conflict, so they will do nearly anything to avoid it, including actions they might not be comfortable with.........like escalation. Morally and ethically bankrupt.........but very effective.

[Rollerman]

theLaw Ok, I see where you're going..