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  • KatMan
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    • May 2015
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    #1

    Need advice on picking some specific pheros

    Hi everyone.
    I've used a lot of Androtics products mostly, over the years, and I am just beginning to explore PheromoneXS store. I have to say, it's pretty overwhelming, and with the style of descriptions not to a small degree confusing. Maybe it's just me, but I've been reading through it for the last couple of days, and in the end I thought it'd be better if I just asked those who know these things - you guys!

    About myself - just so you get the idea of the situations/conditions I'm in and how the pheros are used:
    I'm a guy, straight, European, late 30s, well-groomed, long hair, work out 6-7 days a week, sleep about 5-6 hours a night, not really interested in attracting women over 35 (hey, at least I'm honest). Women hitting on me are younger, mid/late 20s, usually, - so that's the age group that the pheros should preferably work on. I use pheros either for work (sometimes, if I feel the day will need it, or if a specific female customer that I'd like to get with is expected to come in), or in social situations (often). I don't wear pheros to the gym or as a cologne - they always serve a pretty specific goal/target a specific person.


    Please recommend me the closest PheromoneXS equivalents of the following AD products:

    Instant Openness
    this works wonders for me. People are incredibly open (heh, DUH), chatty, conversations flow smoothly and easily. Helps a bunch when you work retail, it's great for customer relations, but it is just awesome in random social situations when you want to strike up a conversation, it does break through barriers, even with a single spray on, - and I enjoy it very much. Self-effect is quite strong, too, which is great. But my last bottle is about to end within maybe a week or two.
    ALSO, IN ADDITION: does PheromoneXS have something just like this, but with sexier note, more suitable for dates, - with still open but sexier, more intimate, conversations, instead of blah-blah-blah chatter?

    Instant Shine
    people love being around me with this one, I'm the heart of the crowd, the guy who is very much fun to hang with. One man actually said this to me: "You've got... charisma!" - which simply blew me away (and I don't think he meant the Alpha314 kind of charisma). So yeah, you do shine with it on. All out of this one, unfortunately.

    Ammo
    With this one on I feel like looking in a mirror and going "I'm a sexy bitch!" Austin Powers-style, and I strut, not walk, - that's the self-effect. As for the effect on people around me, girls love it, lots of EOIs, body language, etc. - fun stuff. I use it either on its own or with Instant Openness, it's great, but I'm almost out.

    (and finally) Pheromone Proof
    if there is anything like this out there, at all, tell me what it is. I have never had anything else that has the effect PheroProof has. This thing is the BOMB with the girls. It is so very well balanced all around, strong but so very smooth. Unfortunately the original has gone to the realms of myths and legends now - so I'm looking for an equivalent, if such a thing even exists.


    So, which PheromoneXS products would you recommend to replace the above? I would very much appreciate the advice.
  • LeadWithTweed


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    • Mar 2015
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    #2
    IO: Connections (an alternative to Instant Honesty) has this effect but it's more heavy on b-nol than a-nol so the conversations may be too serious. For a lighter open conversational vibe perhaps try VibeXS, or alternatively just combine it with some of your Bliss (see below). Odyssey has a lot of a-nol but may be inappropriate for a work setting due to delirious self-effects. Flirt can get the job done but perhaps not cost-effectively. There are a number of different XS products that theoretically would produce some version of IO's effects but I don't have enough experience with it to pick a best match with any certainty. For the more intimate version, add in some cohesion - it's a balancing act of A1 with enone (calm and comfortable with sexual). Connections is very open and intimate but not expressly sexual. You could also use a lot of your base IO substitute with either a moderate amount of XiST or a small amount of Evolve - especially if you're very sensitive to A1's self-effects and thus want to avoid cohesion.
    IS: This is definitely BlissXS.
    Ammo: APi (but not that sexy) / Taboo (but not the desired self-effect) / SOB (in very small doses - and it'll have bipolar effects, girls will either love it or hate it) / XS121AC (use with the IO replacement).
    Proof: Don't know enough about its content or effects.

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    • flacowww
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      #3
      I wish I had something to contribute but leadwithtwead beat me to the punch... I will add though at least in my personal opinion and from what I've read from others go unscented and add your own cologne in a different location yet close to where you added mones I suggest tom ford neroli or carven pour homme or molecule #1...You can also purchase sample size colognes at myperfumesamplesdotcom for pocket change before you spend big bucks and they carry creed

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      • KateD
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        • Jun 2013
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        #4
        Welcome to Pheromone XS Katman! AD has some awesome products with potential and I am glad you are getting the very best from your pheromones so far.

        Androtics have their products and we have ours. Comparing or looking for something similar will only confuse you and miss out on the wonderful things we have to offer.

        XS has made it super easy to choose the right products for you by using our goals system.Have a clear goal as to what you want to achieve and its that easy. In addition,each product page has a description of the product and loads of reviews.



        If you just want some products to start you of and introduce you to what these products can do socially and for sexual attraction, I highly recommend the BCE pack.

        Looking forward to seeing you around Kat!

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        • Sylvian


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          • Apr 2015
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          #5
          Hi Katman, and...

          Unlike myself you are an experienced mone user, but my first ever purchase was the BCE pack (only two weeks ago) and I just wanted to second Kate's recommendation. In my humble opinion, these 3 products will give you many options and provide an excellent introduction to this vendor's products. I dare say ACE is just as good - I got a sample of Ascend.

          I've been harsh with Bliss in my internal thought processes because it's taxing on me (lethargy), and because it's made me more extroverted and I'm resisting this behavior at an unconscious level. But I'm wearing it right now in a public place and socializing is a breeze -in between posts.

          The only downside, if you have my self restraint -or lack thereof- with either of these packs is that you will want to spend more money to try the other products available.

          Disclaimer: I'm an ignoramus (but I'm working on it).

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          • Quicksilver
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            Just occurred to me, if you want to up the humor in your disclaimer, you could write: "People call me an ignoramus, which is a kind of dinosaur, right?"
        • Roberto Calone
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          #6
          Meh, Evolve and Ascend nuff said. Easy on the A1 but evolve is DEFINITely a must have.

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          • KatMan
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            • May 2015
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            #7
            Thank you all for your advice. I ended up ordering the ACE pack and a bottle of Bliss.

            However I'm a bit worried about the self-effects of Bliss - I've done some reading around the forums, and a few people mentioned the self-effects being akin to being stoned, slow, very relaxed, unable/not wanting to concentrate on any one thing, not caring about things, - whereas that's kind of the opposite of how IS feels to me, and that would definitely be unusable at work. I like to keep my sharpness in any situation. I guess I'll find out when it gets here.

            Also, KateD, I appreciate the goal system, I did check it out before I asked the questions. The problem for me was that XS products appear to be doing way more than one thing, and I'm sort of used to it being simpler than that. Single specific goal = single specific product. I want to have charisma -> boom, use that thing. I want to have a girl feel relaxed when next to me -> boom, use some other thing. I want to get laid -> boom, use this thing. Etc, etc, etc.

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            • LeadWithTweed


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              #8
              Concentration might be helped by TAF/XSP-F/XSR32/Thinker - fairly certain its absence is one of the things that sets bliss apart from IS (I do not know for certain, but all the evidence so far suggests...) Energy perhaps some neno will help (effects are highly variable from person to person but the molecule is cheap and it could be as good as a cup of coffee if not completely useless). P90 may help rev up bliss solo, and I should mention Ekscentra believes XSR37 to be identical (mine is on the way for testing but I can't vouch for this myself yet), but 1) be careful about the dosage and 2) you probably don't need it if/when wearing bliss in combination with your other products like ascend or evolve (though it could help with cohesion selfies - not sure, but worth a try if you run into problems). Also on the list of putatives that may help unfog your bliss: P93, P100 (similar to the XSPF/XSR32 I mentioned), supposedly P107 but I can't vouch for it personally.

              All that being said, just wait and see how it goes when you try the bliss. Those effects wouldn't be surprising but everybody's different and we don't want to jump the gun and overcomplicate things.

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              • Ekscentra
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                #9
                For me, OdysseyXS takes the best of IO and IS, but you can add Bliss to this if you like. Technically an alternative to Spaceland, Odyssey is easily one of my favorite mixes from PXS, and my favorite social along with SXD-9 from LAL.

                Taboo is the PXS equivalent of Ammo - it does, however, have A1 in it, so keep that in mind when testing.

                As for PheroProof? They brought that back at Androtics! I can't vouch for its effectiveness, but Pago seemed to have great results with the new version.

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                • Xcc
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                  #10
                  LeadWithTweed and Ekscentra Thank you for posting such thoughtful replies. I've been reading your posts in multiple threads and been getting quite the education. Thank you!

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                  • sexnificant
                    Mone Warrior


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                    • Oct 2014
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                    #11

                    AD: Instant Openness = PXS: Connections but is too serious (Great deal might Combine both AD products IO & IH)

                    AD: Instant Sunshine = PXS: Bliss

                    AD: Ammo = PXS: Taboo
                    Pheromone: ACE, SOB, Xist, Taboo, Love Boat, Connections, A1, Bnol, Anol, Celebrity*,Barely Legal*,Thinker*,Crush*,XS144 (OUTSPOKEN)*.
                    Apex: Core, Imprint, CV3*.
                    LAL: Wolf, Primitive*, Aqua Vitae*
                    Androtics: Ammox2, TUTH, P75 2.5mcg 30ml FF22 | TO-GO:A314, Ammox1, TUTH, IO, IS, P130, P102.

                    *:Samples

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