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What's Lurking In Your Perfume/Cologne?

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  • Ixist
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    Scottie2Hottietannin

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  • Scottie2Hottie
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    I'm surprised that Realm out you in a good mood as it is A1 and nothing more.

    I doubt the pheromone oil was NPA as it a always been alcohol based.


    Let me clarify. I'm not saying commercial fragrances DO contain pheromones. I just found it interesting that they could be found at a source for commercial perfumers. But it's still possible that they COULD be using the..

    As far as that pissy smell, I doubt that it's amber. I've smelled a variety of Amber EOs and not describe any of them that way.

    I would think that if plants produced pheromones researchers would have discovered that by now.

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  • Ixist
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  • eternitys_child
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    mainstream perfumes are almost guaranteed to not contain any pheromones. However, a lot of them DO freely and openly use ingredients that have pheromone-like qualities to them.

    Hedione is a notable compound that I believe can be found in Acqua Di Gio by armani
    Iso E Super is also something that I've come to understand as having certain properties similar to pheromones as well

    after looking it up, it seems my cologne (eternity by calvin klein) has Iso E super. lol


    I personally think it would be bad business if a company is using pheromones in their fragrance without disclosing that information to their customers. Also, if pheromones really were inside of the fragrances, you'd see the commercialization of human pheromones. At the moment, it's purely an artisan niche, and it's best that way

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  • Ildergreier
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    Originally posted by Scottie2Hottie View Post
    While there are some perfumers who use only natural essential oils/extracts it seems most use a plethora of synthetic compounds. Or at least that's what I've noticed from my investigations. But my point with this discussion is are there perfumers using pheromones without our knowledge? If they are included along with the various compounds professionals use are they actually using them? I would think that if they aren't then the pheromones would be dropped from their catalogue due to lack of interest.
    I hope they at least mention it if they are putting pheromones in the perfume, because I would like to know so that I know what else mone to add.

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  • Scottie2Hottie
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    While there are some perfumers who use only natural essential oils/extracts it seems most use a plethora of synthetic compounds. Or at least that's what I've noticed from my investigations. But my point with this discussion is are there perfumers using pheromones without our knowledge? If they are included along with the various compounds professionals use are they actually using them? I would think that if they aren't then the pheromones would be dropped from their catalogue due to lack of interest.

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  • Ildergreier
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    In my favorite perfume for vinter (Russian Amber), I have nothing. I want it au natural, if you can say that when it comes to perfume.

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  • Scottie2Hottie
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    Between realm and all the other crap back in the day it's a wonder that I continued with pheromones.

  • NuTrix
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    Yes, I wouldn't recommend Realm in any version to anyone. Check out, indole. That's a fun one, lol

  • Scottie2Hottie
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    I wouldn't be surprised if they aren't slipping them into some of their creations. Then again a professional nose would smell them and be like ewwww. Lol

    Speaking of ewwww I came across a chemical compound described as decayed fecal. So I guess that one fragrance you mentioned could be utilizing this compound.

    I sprayed on Realm in a department store once. It was horrid. I immediately found the nearest restroom and washed it off.

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  • NuTrix
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    I remember buying Realm by Erox for women because of it's pheromone claims waaaay back when, but I didn't care for it enough to repurchase. I KNOW some of my LMPM perfumes are spiked with them, but that's nothing hidden Of course my deer musk perfumes claim phermonal properties, other wise my collection of mainstream perfumes is so limited (can count on 1 hand) that I'm fairly certain they haven't slipped any pheromones in them, at least not yet...

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  • Scottie2Hottie
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    Just did a little more digging at perfumersworld. Found copulins and estratetraenol. Also oxytocin.

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  • Scottie2Hottie
    started a topic What's Lurking In Your Perfume/Cologne?

    What's Lurking In Your Perfume/Cologne?

    So I've been searching raw materials for perfumery. Because, well, I've tried probably close to 100 samples in the past few months and sadly maybe a handful were decent. Three or four worth buying. I even tried a custom fragrance and was terribly disappointed. Just God awful stuff. The stuff on the market that accounts for a passable fragrance is beyond me. I mean who smells this shit and thinks Oh yea we gotta market this?

    I'm thinking my God I can't do any worse. So I started researching essential oils thinking I'd go the natural route. A shout out to NuTrix for the invaluable link. I even found ethically wild harvested ambergris at a staggering $150/10 ml. I stumbled across a professional perfumer's resource. I was investigating synthetic compounds (you need a PhD inchemistry to makes of it) and made a startling discovery. Lo and behold they offer pheromones. Androstenone, androsterone, alpha AndrostAnol and beta andtostenol. All at 1000ppm & 100 ppm at $5/gram & $0.50/gram respectively.

    So my point is, what's in your perfume/cologne? Are perfumers secretly using pheromones in their creations? Is it their super secret ingredient. Remaining in the shadows until they become mainstream, if ever.
    Last edited by Scottie2Hottie; 10-06-2017, 09:15 AM.

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