XS120 Beta (The Thinker)

[dorfmeister]

Doing some research on this. I wonder how this might combine with my day to day work combo of A314, Laid Paste, and Cohesion. I tend to avoid spray pheromones but this looks very intriguing.

[IceFluffy]

Its an interesting blend for sure. From a therapy position it has great potential. I've found it to have this surprising compliance effect on some people.

Wearing "The Thinker" I had a little time ago the 3'rd hardcore Ericksonian hypnosis session with a client. After the session they said it was the most comfortable and deepest one they've ever had. A few days later they say they can't believe how calm they's been feeling since, like a huge breath of fresh air from the depressive times they had been going through.

I really wish I could estimate how much those Thinker puffs helped in terms of effects on the client. The sessions do tend to get more and more intense as time goes by, as clients develop the ability to access trance easier anyway.

One thing I'm definitely sure of is self-effects. "The Thinker" really facilitates traincing out with my eyes open more psychedelically than usually and one undeniable fact is the fact that your own state as a hypnotist magnetizes the subject into a trance a lot.

I'm wondering how to really test its effect on clients. Maybe I should wait for the least responsive subject, tell them "wait a second", go out & blow some puffs, come in and have another go at it .

[XSteveO]

Its an interesting blend for sure. From a therapy position it has great potential. I've found it to have this surprising compliance effect on some people.

[Futureman]

Just got a bottle of 120XS! I confess I'm still confused about this mix (despite the interesting reports) and its purposes. Perhaps I just need to give it a whirl.

[Dioxonus]

I should be getting this mone soon. Since I'm an introvert it might really help. I will post my test here.

[Magnus]

Some new thoughts on Thinker.

I'm big into theory and how things work. So here goes.

We have seen that Thinker makes introverts more comfortable in their own skin and how that helps them deal in social situations. What is overlooked I think is that being the social that Thinker is its doing the same thing to the people around you. Its a self-comfort mix that does selfies to everyone around you as well as yourself. everyone gets shy and introverted sometimes and it effects how we deal with the people around us when it happens.

I believe that Thinker alleviates that stress and lets you and others just be, rather than playing the "game". Combined with another social such as connections, it allows the Connections to break though the "gotta impress and if I don't then I'm screwed" mentality more easily to make that "real" connection that we all look for from time to time.

Is Thinker good for the PUA, probably not. It very well might allow the shy and reclusive to go out and work the bar but in the end, the shy and reclusive is still looking for that connection and when they find it, they may find their PUA days and aspirations are cast to the wayside to pursue what it was they really wanted but didn't expect to begin with.

I urge again all of you to try Thinker and Connections together because the combo is magic. Still have not had any luck with the love potion I was working on using Thinker as a basis but with the effects of XS130 and Xist I've seen lately that might be a good road to explore.

I know there are more people than me and Kimba who have played with Thinker....come on, shine and tell us what you have discovered.

[Magnus]

Ok, here is my report on thinker and MX297. Sadly, all the fools I was with last night wanted to do was go out and eat and then come home but I was ata least in public with this combo on.

Men seemed to look over or around me or just ignore me. I felt like a million bucks and got some great subtle swagger from this combo. Was upbeat and alert to everything around me. A little irritated about being crowded because we were seated next to the register but once the food came I forgot about it. Our waitress was a tall thick mixed caucasian / afro-american woman in her 20's and she was very nice to me finding excuses to bump up against me, taking a little too long to say goodbye, making complements, etc....

You could easily tell she was in to me if you know the signals to look for.

Anyway, I let it pass cause of the people I was with and headed on back home. High energy mix to wear and makes you tired a little.

[Magnus]

Thinker and MX297

1 Spray of each

Just applied this and I'm getting this I wanna fucking party mood. My first thoughts was there is something magic about this combo. Not sure what it is but I'll find out. I'm headed out with some male friends tonight. Will see what happens.

[Lainy]

Thanks for that, this is a very interesting combo that definitely requires further testing. Although it also appears that when flirt is added to any mix (in my experience) it appears to amplify the effects.

[nbat]

My thought would be that the thinker was projecting a confidence in surroundings and material presented, and the flirt made it easier for people to believe that you are actually speaking about those things. That may not have been the best way to put it, but it's the only way i figure how to put it. Also, that's just my opinion.

[Lainy]

I wore the thinker x2 sprays with flirt x1 spray and had an interesting experience professionally. I was presenting evidence at a small hearing which was accepted, with no questioning or cross examination. On the other hand my colleague was heavily cross examined. Strange but true not sure if it was a fluke (unlikely) or the pheromones (the room was small and warm). Comments welcome. Luv Lainy

[Magnus]

nbat you hit something on the head here. I'm not sure Thinker gives you confidence per say, moreover I believe it is comfort based from a self perspective. Comfortable being you and acting naturally which can appear as confidence.

What you said lite up a light in my head when all of a sudden I realized that people around me when I'm wearing Thinker are acting the same way but in a beta manner. Sorta like your the alpha geek in a beta manner while wearing Thinker. I suppose that if someone else took charge that the group exposed to Thinker would probably go along with them as well but I don't think it occurs to them to do so. Its a passivity generator in some manner.

This mix is as deep and expansive as Bliss and reminds me of that venerate mix a lot.

[nbat]

So yesterday i started school again and figured it would be a good time to use up my last little bit of thinker.

2x spray - 1 shared between the wrists, 1 to the neck.

Went to math class and noticed the usual enhancement of peripheral. Lights seemed brighter too. Had some awesome focus, which can sometimes be a problem for me. Class is only an hour so not much time to test on others (and it's just a lecture), however i was in a really happy/mellow confident mood.

Five hours later i had a night Psychology class. That nice head high from the thinker wore off so i re-applied one spray to the wrists before i left. To put bluntly, Psychology is fucking awesome wearing thinker. Same awesome focus, i was answering the majority of questions asked, and the people at my table were asking me questions about the work like i was the authority on the subject. Pretty good time all in all.

I've noticed a sort of social/status thing with thinker. My guess would be that the perception of the wearer, being in control of his surroundings, projects an attitude of confidence. Not an "aggressive"(and i mean that lightly) confidence like what you might get from Ascend, but more of a "yeah i like nature and shit, but what you're doing is pretty cool too" kind of confidence. I hope that made sense.

[Magnus]

I don't profess to be a genius either but I will say I have moments of sheer brilliance in which knowledge comes to me in a manner I cannot explain. I think a mystic or occultist would call it coming from the super consciousness or akashic records.

Now back to Thinker. I have a couple questions for you and you would rather answer them in PM that would be fine with me. I understand your holding back info on the mix to get feedback from it. My questions are more me just being curious than anything else. lol

1. I'm assuming from your post that this mix was designed for a specific type of mental illness. I have my ideas on what that illness or group of illnesses would be but hearing it from the horse's mouth might be useful in my research of the molecule. I've written and experienced so much with this mix that I'm going to have to go back and reread my entries because of being sick some and loosing track on my research path.

The synergy concept I believe is there and has to be taken into consideration with any mix you wear because we all produce mones to one degree or another. Even after washing the dang things just come out of your skin within a couple hours and start building again. With this in mind, you have to take into consideration how your personal signature works with each mix and this is why some will experience great stuff with a mix and others will get ghosted at the starting gate. This synergy concept is leading me down another path of research where I'm going to start showering at night and applying mones at that time and watching for the so called day after effects. Also. this should build up a meta signature of all my mone mixes in my sleeping area where I'm getting a little bit of everything over time and should make my signature seem more natural and consistent even though I change up mixes quickly. I mean were probably only talking nanograms in some cases but then pheromones do work in some incredibly small amounts or so I've heard. It's just a thought...who knows how it will play out with me. I've read some others work in this area and they had success while others did not.

I had other questions but my mind just decided to go off somewhere and chill so if I remember them I'll ask away. lol

As to my being sick. Its just that time of the year. I'm around so many kids and just have a mildly weak immune system that takes weeks to fight off what others can kill in days. On the other hand, sometimes I'll catch something that puts others down for several weeks and its gone from my system in a day or so. I generally stay sick with some form of cold, flu, congestion, stomach virus,earache, or sinus issue from November to April of every year. This year has been better than any year in a decade because I've been mostly able to be functional even though I still caught this crap. I've seen others put down for weeks with some of the stuff that just made me feel bad this year.

I can say this. People who know me have commented on the change in my personality since I started using certain mixes of yours Steve. It was while I was wearing Thinker when this was first brought up and I feel Bliss probably had something to do with it over time as well. I'm seen as being more comfortable with myself and able to handle negative things in my life better than I did in the past. I've noticed this about myself as well before it was ever mentioned to me. Not sure if its the mones or the confidence subliminal I have been listening to but the change is there.

Something else I've been hearing lately is that I act and seem to be younger than my actual age. Some kids even see me as childlike and my status with them is reduced greatly in that they feel they do not have to take me seriously as an adult. Makes it difficult to parent my Godchild since this started to happen. lol

Not really that concerned about that though. I can work around the status issue with children, and hopefully with the confidence I can capitalize on this in my pursuit of young nubile 20somethings. lol

As you can see, your not the only one who gets off track. lol

[XSteveO]

I used to get those stomach aches too with mones. Not saying anything other than a correlation but it only happened with Androtics. It could be as simple an explanation as I just had a stomach ache at that particular time.

You hit on something with the synergy I believe deserves more insight. When this blend was designed it was made from a therapeutic standpoint. There was a coach, hypnotist and psychiatrist involved and we made it with the assumption the person exposed would not be wearing mones. We wanted it to effortlessly connect on a deeper level with the person and to make that happen it had to be synergistic with their natural mone productions. Unfortunately for us here in the community we take more showers than these people it was most going to be used on. I can't get into to much detail but lets just say they weren't as into personal hygiene as most of society.

This actually presented a challenge because this natural mone signature can overpower synthetics. Now typically you're not going to get good results from the naturals because well you smell like piss and body odor. Its a turnoff. On the other hand a hard working man who goes out after work for a drink will have a natural advantage over most other guys. As long as he takes steps to limit body odor his natural pheromones play an important role. We were dealing with the more smelly type in trials.

We needed to compensate for the naturals while not be overwhelmed by them. With lots of work I was able to begin to understand how the blend worked to overcome this limitation and once I had that knowledge I started fooling around with getting it to work with it. The limitation became a doorway of opportunity. I'm super glad you picked up on this. I don't post intricacies like this for obvious reasons. A blend should be experienced by the user without much expectations.

The researchers involved are actually creating a semi-formal study of their results. I say semi-formal because while I may be the Wizard of Super Love I hold no authority in the applied sciences here. My research would be discounted from this standpoint as not having the professional credibility needed. Either way I'm so honored to have been asked to participate and what's really thrilling is to know that I made a difference in helping someones life. Strike that WE as a community made a difference in someones life. That's huge!

I don't profess to be a genius or even close. Technically speaking I'm not on any type of scientist level and I don't like math. I can say though its my passion to make blends that work by loving pheromones, researching pheromones, experiencing pheromones that makes the difference. Pheromone journeys are all about experience and that's why I created this community.

Sorry I got off track, but yeah synergy

[XSteveO]

Oh God that filter is so important for me. Even with typing

[Magnus]

So a couple things I want to report.

Later that night after mixing thinker and bliss I got on some dating sites and started talking crap with women. Took more chances, talked more shit, and got more responses than I ever have before. I at least successfully opened several women late at night when the pickings are slim in my area. lol

Now I couldn't keep them for some reason or another but it felt good just to make a good opening. I felt charged....like nothing I could do would turn out wrong all night long.

The next day when I woke up, had to travel some distance to take some supplies to a friend of mine at a hospital so I had decent interaction opportunities with a fairly wide range of people. I noticed myself move, talk, and act with a confidence I can't attribute to myself normally so to say this feeling...this day was atypical would be an understatement.

The surprising thing that happened is that virtually everything I said was taken in a sexual manner and everyone was generally ok with that. I feel sure I could have closed virtually any woman I wanted too no matter what her age or status was. The aura and feeling I had was......transcendent in nature, I felt as a god must feel when walking among men.

Now phermonally, here is what went on. That night I took a shower and did not shower the next day so my natural phermone signature mixed with the single spray of thinker I used the next day. Normally thinker does nothing for me solo bu then I've never allowed my natural mones to come out for over 12 hours before applying it so I think some synergistic effect was going on here that I can't figure out. Anyway it was a good day.

Went a couple days with no mones and felt stupid and slow. Still sick with this 1-2 sinus cold going around so that might be why I feel slow and stupid. lol

Tried a monster combo today and noticed no real effects from it. In fact now that I think back, I can't even remember what I sprayed other than thinker, bliss, and p83. I know there was something else I just can't remember what. lol All I know is I felt slow and tired all evening. Waking up past couple hours and I feel decent. Stomach is upset and head is swimmy. I'm sure its the sinus thing.

[Magnus]

My girlfriend told me she loves Flirt with Thinker Still but found a far more potent combo for non-seduction situations:

Thinker and Bliss.

Thinker and Bliss, as she reports, is like taking a deep breath to relax or clear your self of stress on a constant basis, a constant state of relaxation and stress relief added to the individual elements of the products. Excellent for productivity.

Funny you should mention this today Kimba, its what I am wearing today for the first time. I been laying off the Thinker for a couple days and I have to say that my focus was better on it than off of it even if I did get tired shortly after applying it. The tiredness wears off after an hour or so. Fair warning to all though.......seems to remove filter between brain and mouth. Said anything that come to mind today no matter what it was. lol

It is carefree and laid back although I can totally see myself getting shit done with this combo. No where near as talkative without connections though. Might add connections tomorrow and see what the three are like together. The two together seem to be a breath of mental fresh air.

Everyone around me was even more relaxed and non stressed than I was and they seemed happy. Sadly, I do not get happy from Bliss. And I do mean sadly. I can see where happiness would really shine with the Bliss self effects I do feel.

[KIMBA]

My girlfriend told me she loves Flirt with Thinker Still but found a far more potent combo for non-seduction situations:

Thinker and Bliss.

Thinker and Bliss, as she reports, is like taking a deep breath to relax or clear your self of stress on a constant basis, a constant state of relaxation and stress relief added to the individual elements of the products. Excellent for productivity.

[KIMBA]

Welcome to the mad tester club. The fear of loss was reported by me, and with imprint. I don't know if it is a good thing, it took me provoking it. It's one of those anomalies to exemplify a products effects the community runs with, one of the main pit falls of the pheromone world. I can get fear of loss with out any product, but imprint exemplified it. If imprint didn't do this, a product designed to imprint you to the target, it wouldn't live up to it's potential, would it? Many products do have an imprint quality to it. Other products which are good for fear of loss would be NA, Cohesion, and Xist. Once they hook the target feels like they need you. That's all. Great reports by the way. My advice would be this, thinker is almost a status product and personal comfort. Think of it like as your own cohesion. It should also effect your targets in a similar manor. It would help someone get lost in the moment with you. Thinking that way, what would you want a person to get lost in the moment with you? SOB is lust, arousal and vibe. Socials may not work best with this. Food or thought.