XSR42 - Estratrien?

[Euan]

Went to buy myself a few nice things today (with many thanks to SteveO for the birthday gift ), and figured about getting another research molecule. Didn't in the end (I just couldn't pass up finally getting Love Boat), but in doing some reading for what each was I couldn't find anything about Estratrien (what 42 is based on). Not a mention here, shows up about once on Androtics' forum, and almost nothing on Pherotruth either. Anyone got any light they can shed?

[GHOST]

It's the group of molecules it belongs to not a specific molecule

[Euan]

Yes, I was wondering what that general "family" of molecules do. Or...anything at all about them, really. I found nothing relating to pheromones when I searched it up on Google, which is a surprise - normally there's something. Part of me is excited - if it's a whole new, as-yet-untested molecule and we're walking straight into the wilderness with testing, that's just cool as all hell. Part of me is also curious, because it would surprise me if it was a never-before-tested family of molecules.

[XSteveO]

The thing is Euan, most of these molecules have already been tested and reported on under the Putative series of androtics. The difference here is they never plan to release any data on them and for good reason. They can make a pretty penny on them and you are forced to continue to buy them from only their store. Lets say you buy and love P83. They will never tell you what it is, not even the class of pheromones they come from like what Estratrien is. If you want it you have to buy it from them. There are currently rumors of the concentrations dropping to. I even heard that ammo is straight up alcohol lately. I hope not, I really hope they wouldn't stoop to that level.

What is really scary though and has happened to all of us Androtics old-timers is we spent hard earned money on researching not just putatives, but mixes. Some of those mixes were classics and fantastic. All of a sudden they discontinued them and never released the formulas. No explanation other then we got your money and the research we needed. Screw you. Well that's what it felt like. Even if they did release the formula you still had no where to buy P86, except from them. To make things worse though then they go and discontinue great molecules like P96 and P86. They just said oh well they weren't economically feasible to sell anymore oh and by the way we will never tell you what they are anyway.

So you have a mix that you spend hundreds on "researching" that has vanished. You have putatives that you spend hundreds on "researching" that has vanished. Your out of hundreds, they got the research and you're left with your pants down.

I promised from the start to start with hidden names only so we as a community to crowd-source the research and first discover what they are compared to the putative series. After we have all the information we need I'll release the molecule names. This way even if you decide to buy elsewhere you know what they are. To show good faith I listed the category, and then released what molecule XSR32 was compared to the putative series. Next will come the name. To take that a bit further I released P102 EpiAlloPregnenolone (sp) before it was ever tested except by me and Dancing Joker.

Recently I made available all the research molecules to everyone that wants to test them as quite frankly there aren't enough reports to maintain this project. I guess I could have just closed it down and kept the info personal. I really want to advance this and make these molecules more popular but again its not enough right now to sustain the project. I figure if I open the molecules to testing by others we can at least get a different viewpoint. Of course only "researchers" get access to this forum and a significant discount. You'll start seeing those on discounts on other products too. I'm even changing the reward points so you guys get up to 10% back in points while everyone else stays at 5%.

So yeah I am doing what I can to encourage research so I can keep getting more molecules to test for us. I'm about to go through all researchers that aren't reporting and removing that status. The discounts are for those willing to put in some effort. I'd rather have a few solid consistent researchers than tons who don't report but want discounts.

There are some molecules that are slated for testing that have not been identified as ever being a putative before or ever used elsewhere, except maybe in secret. The Bliss molecule is one. Before a molecule ever gets to that state first I send off the spec sheets to my team of doctors. That might sound like hype but I've put together a team of scientists, doctors, PHD's, chemical engineers and the likes to ensure we are heading in the right direction. I'm confident we are

[Fleur]

Steve, is it possible for anyone to be more awesome than you are? We get the chance to test new stuff AND also have discounts for doing that, it's all just amazing. 10% points feels like almost too generous! I guess that one wasn't up yet?

I finally had some extra money to spend, so I got myself XSR33, XSR66 and XSR42. No idea if those do anything for the ladies, but it will be fun to test. And got some other stuff, like DM oil to load my perfumes with it. I'm a happy girl! XD

Oh, and by the way, since that Estratrien name is a bit confusing for us who don't know much about chemistry, could someone possibly give an example of well known molecule that belongs to that group? That would be very educating.

[XSteveO]

Think Estratetraenol EST. Same Estra-Based category

So like Andros-based Androstenone, Rone...

Does that help?

[Fleur]

Think Estratetraenol EST. Same Estra-Based category

So like Andros-based Androstenone, Rone...

Does that help?

Does help a lot! I wouldn't figure that out myself

Thank you Steve!

So cool to get to test those new molecules. I'm very excited about when my order is getting here. Should be soon with FedEx, yay!

[Euan]

Fleur phrased what I was trying to ask initially way better - that's exactly what I was trying to figure out And I'll also echo the part about you being just too damn fantastic, Steve Generous to a fault! I've been spending a chunk of cash this month on stuff that needed the spending, but when I next get some cash in it'll be time to get some more research molecules (and I've got P-Bomb and Love Boat to test until then). Excitement awaits!

[Fleur]

Holy f*ck I'm having a weird day. If it's not this molecule then I don't know what might be causing that. My coworker who's like 20 years older than me is texting me all day telling me I'm beautiful and my smile is irresistible. WTF?! We've been working together for over 2 years now and he's never done anything like this. He is generally nice but that's all.

I was wearing 2 sprays of XSR42 and he sat next to me for 20 minutes on a coffee break.

[MrGoodbar714]

Well what if its true and 42 just gives him the balls to speak up and tell you about it

[Fleur]

Well what if its true and 42 just gives him the balls to speak up and tell you about it

He is being too creepy about it

[MrGoodbar714]

Ahhh I see... I'll still take creepy anyday or nothing thanks for reporting on 42, I'm looking at getting a few research molecules when money comes in for me. This sounds intriguing.

[Fleur]

I'm looking at getting a few research molecules when money comes in for me. This sounds intriguing.

That would be awesome! I am always happy to read about guys' perspective when testing these molecules.

And I am not sure yet that it was 42 acting in my case, I need more testing with it to figure anything out. But I was really shocked with all the texts I got from that man
Gosh, how much I love mones.. it's always so much fun!

[XSteveO]

Anything else happen?

[Fleur]

Sorry Steve, I haven't tested it properly yet. My life has been such a chaotic mess lately, while testing requires clear mind and determination. I just need to figure few things out and solve that mess, and I think I'll start testing again soon.