xsp83 what the %^&*!

[Xcc]

I need some help. I decided to experiment with xsp83. From what I understand xsp83 is supposed to be the same as or similar to p83. I think p83 is supposed to be a disinhibiter. I think it's also supposed to fill in the gaps in a formula if something is missing (such as a social feature that needs to be there).

Now if I didn't know that, I would think that xsp83 turned people into Speedy Gonzales. And the only gap it seems to fill is that gap of that special molecule that can turn someone into an Olympic caliber 100 meter dash champion. One woman was moving around so fast at this store as she was helping me, I think she teleported at one point.

I was using 10 to 20 mcg in the alcohol base.

Now I do have some ideas as to why this was happening, but I want others' input first.

knowledgeispower fdesa12 idle XSteveO Pandatrooper MaliciousIntent XyzN RTBoss eternitys_child elvin.tan77 KateD theLaw 2000GT

GHOST

Tenerife Guy

Ixist

kingtut savage

These are the first names I can think of for experienced mone users. Your input would be appreciated.

[Pandatrooper]

Xcc sorry man, would love to give u my input but i do not own xsp83 nor have read about it.. maybe the rest of the bros will give their valuable input soon.

[Ixist]

Interesting. I have a lot of experience with P83, and I've never experienced what you describe with XSP83.

I do feel like some XS blends have something like P83 in it, like a disinhibitor.

I used to use a lot of P83 before I got in to XS products. Basically it will make me not care or worry about things a lot less. To the point where I wouldn't even care if I was in some danger. After using it for a long time, I felt like I was losing control of my actions. It's kind of hard to describe, but I also started getting depressed. Not the depressing feeling you can get with A1, but more of a mental pattern. Nothing really mattered. I felt that I have made some bad decision during that time, but didn't realize it because of that P83 induced state of mind.

Anyway, I just stopped using it. I do feel like it's a good putative in a blend or a combo, maybe not by itself. It needs to be balanced with something, like all mones imo.

In high doses it would make me completely fearless, like I could be on the edge of a cliff of a mountain and not care or feel the danger.

I refuse to use any Androtics products now, because truly they have never worked as well as XS products did for me. Another problem with Androtics products is their diffusion. It's way too strong and fast, and lot of times it spreads so far that the cloud is not associated with you the wearer. I felt like my cloud has been stolen a lot!

Plus, Androtics have screwed up so many times, and sold so many duds that I simply refuse to use their products or deal with them. They never apologize for anything and censor their forum completely. They think they're the gods of pheromones! lol They can do no wrong and no one is better than them. Good luck with that! lol

[XSteveO]

2 people (Diane and Tisha) used to report it had a speed effect to it. Diane couldn't wear it and I believe it was Tisha's coworker whom it effected this way.

[Xcc]

Pandatrooper I appreciate you stopping by this thread and being honest! Thank you!

Ixist Now to be blunt with you, that "nothing really mattered" I can relate to! I put on say past 50 mcg and I just don't really want to do much. The fearlessness I can also relate to, and it seems to happen at about the same amount, say 50+ mcg.

That's why it was so weird watching these women become so hyperactive. Unexpected to say the least.

You also presented a number of reasons why I refuse to order from Androtics Direct. At one time, I think they were innovators, and from what I read A314 was a milestone in pheromone history and a significant advancement in pheromone formulas. They helped get this niche to where it is today. But your concerns, I can understand them

[Ixist]

I hate to bash on them, but really I don't see any reason why I'd order from them anytime in the future

[XSteveO]

25mcg was my sweet spot at androtics. With this 83 I tend to stick to about 5 mcg per spray.

[knowledgeispower]

Interesting, I have no idea about the speedy thing but yes P83 is supposed to be a social mix, but not great as a standalone, but yes great with other mixes. I'm not sure if XSP83 is p83, but if it is, I would try using it with other mixes to see how it helps? I don't think you will get much out of it by itself. Now p74 on the other hand is a great disinhibitor that works great by itself or in a mix,

[XSteveO]

I had some incredible results with P83 as a standalone. Probably my most favorite old time putative molecule. My reports on it have been scrubbed though

[knowledgeispower]

Interesting, maybe I wasn't using enough at the time...

[Ixist]

Xcc I just want to add that I have experience with P83, not PXS83. If I wasn't clear. I've never used PXS83

P83 was kind of disinhibiting, relaxing, like you could breath easier and just not care about anything around you. Even if your place was on fire, you wouldn't panic at all, and just do what you had to. Also I felt that messed with mental concentration a bit, it was a little harder to focus and concentrate

Also made me less hesitant, like say you want to talk a girl, but you kind of hesitate. With P83 you wouldn't lol I'd just go up and talk, and could careless what came of it

[KateD]

Xcc : Teleported, you crack me up

I only used XSP83 and P83 in a sexual environment but there was this dude , kingtut who was testing it out in a social environment and got some interesting results

When I am able, I will test it outside the bedroom and let you know

In faccccccccct, I need to do some grocery shopping this saturday, send me a txt so I can remember to test some out

[Xcc]

KateD I can't send you a text. I don't have your number. And I don't want it because then you'd have mine after I text you, and you're trouble!

My guess is that these women were feeling sexual and it made them uneasy because they felt confined by the environment. So rather than act on their desires, they sped around so they could try to ignore all the sexual thoughts in their head. But I can't prove it, just a guess... but I think a good guess because I was wearing Glow at the time.

[KateD]

"trouble huh", it takes one to know one

[kingtut savage]

Yes I've tested xsp83 a few times both at the gym and at school. I originally for it because of KateD's findings but my experience with it was bizarre to say the least. I still haven't warn xsp83 in a sexual situation yet. I wrote about it before, I have to find the thread. But I'll try to summarize. It was like there was a bubble around me. Woman was attracted by the bubble but would sort of hover at the perimeter. When I moved so they were inside the bubble, they would run to the edge again. Lol in a way got similar results only that weren't running to help me, they were running away from the epicenter of the bubble, me. A woman who I know liked me and responses well to every phero I've work also ran away, but she was also attracted at the same time. She was noticeably confused in my presence. She would hover like the other but she hovered at the epicenter. She would run by me stop for a few seconds with a confused look than would run away again. When I used the machine right next to her, she ran away almost immediately. At school where the women in my class where forced to sit inside my bubble, they got agitated by me very easily

[master_at_arms]

That's quite interesting.

[KateD]

very interesting, indeed

[x7]

They feel attraction so,they run away to avoid it.

[Xcc]

Yes I've tested xsp83 a few times both at the gym and at school. I originally for it because of KateD's findings but my experience with it was bizarre to say the least. I still haven't warn xsp83 in a sexual situation yet. I wrote about it before, I have to find the thread. But I'll try to summarize. It was like there was a bubble around me. Woman was attracted by the bubble but would sort of hover at the perimeter. When I moved so they were inside the bubble, they would run to the edge again. Lol in a way got similar results only that weren't running to help me, they were running away from the epicenter of the bubble, me. A woman who I know liked me and responses well to every phero I've work also ran away, but she was also attracted at the same time. She was noticeably confused in my presence. She would hover like the other but she hovered at the epicenter. She would run by me stop for a few seconds with a confused look than would run away again. When I used the machine right next to her, she ran away almost immediately. At school where the women in my class where forced to sit inside my bubble, they got agitated by me very easily

kingtut savage
Yes! That is very similar because I noticed that too! I think they were trying to cope with sexual feelings by distancing themselves. What do you think?

[Xcc]

@x7

Yes, and I'd add that the attraction is so overwhelming for them or they know they can't act on it, so they distance. Any thoughts?

[Xcc]

KateD says:

""trouble huh", it takes one to know one"

Usually, but for you not because it's just so obvious.

[XSteveO]

A quick XSP83/P83 synopsis from the mind of SteveO. I'd write more but my hot wings are waiting to be picked up

83 was very disinhibiting but only when the person was sexually conservative. Otherwise it wasn't, or couldn't be, as those who were already uninhibited wouldn't become more so. My results showed these people were more social and friendly. I remember a lady I met in a Memphis mall who had just shopped Victoria's Secret who I got to "show around". She was in town for a business meeting I think. My memory is a little foggy, but I'm pretty sure she was super conservative but with little effort she was an easy score for me.

Than there was my pink and sparkly friend who was like my bff who this stuff totally changed our relationship. She is a mile a minute anyway, but 83 was like meth for her.

okay got to go wings are waiting

[Ixist]

XSteveO I've never noticed that speed effect from P83. It's possible that I have missed it. I used to use it a lot in combos too. So I stacked it with other products from Androtics.

If I were to go back and test it again, I'd look for that effect. The only preconception I had about P83 is that it's a disinhibitor.

I actually still have some of it stored. I really don't plan on testing it anymore. If you are interested SteveO, I will gladly donate it to you! For science!

I can also include many other Androtics putatives with it. Most of them are in 30ml bottles. I have a few samples as well. I really don't want it to go to waste. If you're interested let me know

[Xcc]

XSteveO said "25mcg was my sweet spot at androtics. With this 83 I tend to stick to about 5 mcg per spray."

And how many sprays at 5 mcg per spray?

Thank you for that information on your sweet spot. That will be a benchmark for me. I've found I can go up to 100 mcg with certain formulas. With others, anything above 20 or 40 mcg and people start acting weird or agitated or scatter brained. When I went up to 100 mcg with a certain formula, the woman started to do the xs182 dance. Other times, they'll do that at lower amounts. It really is a disinhibiter. Although I don't know if there is much point to going above 40 mcg. I'm still testing, but 30, 40, and 100 seem to work for me. I just have to be careful what I'm using in addition to xsp83. I'm guessing if xsp83 or p83 is already in a formula I'm using and then I put on more xsp83, then the "chaos" starts.

[kingtut savage]

kingtut savage
Yes! That is very similar because I noticed that too! I think they were trying to cope with sexual feelings by distancing themselves. What do you think?

Perhaps. That would explain some of the women. But not the woman who had already shown interest in me before. There would be no reason for her to be confused because she already liked me before xsp83

[Xcc]

kingtut savage That could be. What do you think might be occurring?

[EMPYREAL]

It has a shyness induced feeling on women ages 18-25. I can imagine being combined with something else will affect more of the 20-30's and make the 18-25's stay longer in the 'bubble'.

[Primross]

It has a shyness induced feeling on women ages 18-25. I can imagine being combined with something else will affect more of the 20-30's and make the 18-25's stay longer in the 'bubble'.

Need to try this!!