P86

[Quiet&Dreamy]

p86 makes me glow in pictures. It's actually crazy. Can't remember if I had any other effects from it. I'll have to experiment with this one. I have body dysmorphic disorder, so I'd love for it to give me self-effects.

[eroque]

p86 for me highlighted my attractive qualities and it does enhance attractiveness. however for me i really dint find anybody else different. however people comments on me shows it works at least for the user. seems alot of poeple have worked vice versa. i find it it works better if u combined with an alpha molecule.

[MissUnshelved]

Mert, I find p86 doesn’t particularly make me see myself or anyone else as more beautiful (everyone looks the same) but it has helped me complete two portraits I had given up on quite a while back. That’s a pretty big endeavor for me. I’ve used it solo twice at 12.5mcg and 25mcg, spraying my neck both times.

Thanks for this! I want to get back into my writing and have some Thinker, but it sounds like P86 can aid in that as well.

Am I correct that I am more likely to get the selfie effect if I spray it on my neck?

I ordered Thinker over the weekend because I want to pair it with a different putative that has also helped surprisingly with a new project I am working on that isn’t visual art. I’ll write more after I’ve tested it enough and am sure if there is a pattern.

Curious about this other putative you used that helped with your other project. I need all of the help I can get.

[Ildergreier]

Yes, and because both times I used it solo I gravitated towards unfinished portraits, it definitely had a visual beautification factor for me.

Interesting that p86 can work as a cognitive too.

[No Urgency]

It is a cousin of Bnol I believe and BNOL is in Thinker too, makes sense. I often added some est while experimenting with creativity too.

I ordered Thinker over the weekend because I want to pair it with a different putative that has also helped surprisingly with a new project I am working on that isn’t visual art. I’ll write more after I’ve tested it enough and am sure if there is a pattern.

[No Urgency]

So P86 helps you creatively, now that is interesting.

Yes, and because both times I used it solo I gravitated towards unfinished portraits, it definitely had a visual beautification factor for me.

[Muestereate]

It is a cousin of Bnol I believe and BNOL is in Thinker too, makes sense. I often added some est while experimenting with creativity too.

[Ildergreier]

Mert, I find p86 doesn’t particularly make me see myself or anyone else as more beautiful (everyone looks the same) but it has helped me complete two portraits I had given up on quite a while back. That’s a pretty big endeavor for me. I’ve used it solo twice at 12.5mcg and 25mcg, spraying my neck both times.

So P86 helps you creatively, now that is interesting.

[No Urgency]

Mert, I find p86 doesn’t particularly make me see myself or anyone else as more beautiful (everyone looks the same) but it has helped me complete two portraits I had given up on quite a while back. That’s a pretty big endeavor for me. I’ve used it solo twice at 12.5mcg and 25mcg, spraying my neck both times.

I am still new to testing all of this and I’ve only had XS products since Oct 1st so my experience is very limited and certainly not thorough but this is what I have personally found with p86, aside from the artwork, which was when I used it solo.

I used Love Boat solo and got nothing from it. Zero self effects and I noticed nothing with the people I was around. I went back to Love Boat the next week and used p86 along with it. I had a totally different result. I was in a very chill mood, very laid back, very comfortable and so was everyone I was with. It’s notable because one person in the group I find really annoying but either they were less annoying or I didn’t care that they were. I’m not sure which and it doesn’t matter either way to me. Normally, I avoid being around this person because they are just a waste of my time and it’s distinct because I tend to be inclusive with everyone I am around.

I used Celebrity solo and had great results from that and the next time I tried it I added p86 and garnered more than twice the attention, if not more, and I was just existing lol. I was in 3 different settings, 2 with strangers and 1 with people I knew very well and it was really consistent. Both men and women and a wide range of ages.

I used Fantasy solo and again had results. More from men this time than women. More of a chivalrous type of behavior from men. I used p86 along with it the next time I used it and was in a much more public setting and everyone was friendly like usual but one guy (stranger) literally followed me around because he said wanted to see what I looked like when I put my jacket back on. (This was weird.)

I haven’t seen anyone or myself as more attractive nor have I seen any particular features of anyone stand out but it does seem to enhance particulars of the blends I have used it with. Keep in mind I haven’t used it that often.

If you read this thread you’ll only see a few people talking about their personal experiences with it regarding beautification and the 50mcg suggestion is simply someone from several years ago who is not reiterating their own experiences with it. Also, in the women’s combination blend thread it’s only mentioned, specifically, in a handful of combos and that should speak volumes. It likely has a beautification effect in a very individual way to the person using it and whoever is exposed to them wearing it, in their own individual way. (I haven’t searched for it in other threads before writing this so there may be many more talking about it.)

I would suggest to try it with men’s and unisex blends from XS and to reread the replies to you by SteveO. He does an eloquent job explaining the difference between beauty and superficiality. Sometimes we get stuck trying to make something work one way and better results may come after we’re able to change the way we view the issue in the first place.

Just keep trying in different ways. You might not have an issue so much with dosage and frequency as much as an issue with what you assume it does. If p86 ends up not working for you there is bound to be something else here that does - this site has a plethora of blends with very enthusiastic and friendly staff.

[Mister Pheromon Mert]

Because I didn't see these effects with the other products either

[Mister Pheromon Mert]

Hey there Mert,

It's just a suggestion but you have the general idea down. The concept is to use it on and off, ideally in the same settings, to gauge the differences around you. It's okay if you use P86 first, but understand that it's going to be subtle effects.

I also think you're confusing beautifying effects with attractiveness. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and never has a truer statement been made. Everybody is beautiful and has value to offer, but we only recognize the beauty in others as a projection of what we ourselves find within ourselves. To me being physically attractive is more about genes but again also is subjective to our personal preferences.

Personally, I like physically fit petite girls with Mediterranean skin tones and blue or hazel eyes the most attractive. Regardless of how much XSP79 (in my opinion a much better beautifier), or XSP86 I wear is going to make a larger woman attractive to me physically. That certainly is not to denigrate anyone's taste. A very close friend of mine loves bigger women and his wife is wonderful and I totally love her. She is beautiful and her personality is incredible but I'm not attracted to her.

Pheromones amplify those aspects and create an aura but will never change free will. We like what we like and that's okay. Pheromones still create an aura of attraction to help flip switches for others. I'm sure there have been instances in which you found yourself attracted to someone you normally wouldn't. This individual triggered the attraction switches in you, knowingly or unknowingly, but you still have to act on those impulses.

I know it sounds conflicting in itself but maybe think of it this way. Someone you find physically attractive, but they are ego-centric, shallow, not a very nice person, or whatever traits you find unappealing is in your view. You might approach but then discover all those unappealing traits turning your attraction off. Hopefully, if you have enough value in yourself as a person, you will reject the physical attraction. On the other hand, you have someone who is less physically attractive, but they have a genuine smile and zest for life. They are funny and adventurous and they dance like no one is watching. I love that and will choose that person more often than not. The pheromones are the latter example here. They make that smile more genuine, the funny and adventurous more appealing.

Pheromones don't really make people more beautiful in the physical realm, they bring out the internal value of beauty. It ties it all back to defining beauty. How are you defining beauty? What makes a person beautiful to you? If the answer is physically fit petite girls with Mediterranean skin tones and blue or hazel eyes pheromones will not help you at all.

Hoping this helps a little. Oh and this is written in general terms, not about you specifically because I honestly have no idea if any of this applies to your character although I suspect it does not. Your willingness to post in the community seeking advice suggests you are way more value-driven than vanity-driven.

Very interesting. I didn't know that pheromones also
show the inner values ​​of other people more attractive.

The appearance is usually the ticket and the character lasts.
The woman can be genetically beautiful but when her signs
are raised and she is often inaccessible and only shows
superficial interest and expects too much from a man then
I don't need that. That's not special for me. If the person
shows acceptance, is humble and can do something with
them, that's what I'm into.

For example, I test P86 for a week with 1 spray and take
a day off. For example, I don't see any effect. For example,
during the second week I wear 2 sprays every other day. In
the worst case, I don't see any self-effects and also no
effects from others.

Up to how many sprays should I go up maximum?

My guess
I go up to a maximum of 4 sprays and don't see any self-effects
or effects from others. Could it be that, for example, 1 month after
regular use, I can only see the effects of P86 like most users who
experience it with P86? If so, will the big hits take a few weeks
or a month, for example? This not only applies to P86, but also
applies to social pheromones like P74 and Bliss if I want to see
social and talkative effects from myself and from others.

When do I know that a certain pheromone is not working for me?

[Ildergreier]

What am I worried about?
I'm worried that even with higher doses I won't see any beautifying effects like other products such as AV, Nude, TKO, Core, SXD-9, Hypnotica.

Why?

[XSteveO]

If I understand you correctly, I'll test each one
1 spray P86 for a week on the second day. I've also
normal products like Ascend, Taboo, Connection, Bliss
and cohesion. Should I test these products first and
understand and then test P86 solo every other day
or should I test the P86 solo now?

Hey there Mert,

It's just a suggestion but you have the general idea down. The concept is to use it on and off, ideally in the same settings, to gauge the differences around you. It's okay if you use P86 first, but understand that it's going to be subtle effects.

I also think you're confusing beautifying effects with attractiveness. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and never has a truer statement been made. Everybody is beautiful and has value to offer, but we only recognize the beauty in others as a projection of what we ourselves find within ourselves. To me being physically attractive is more about genes but again also is subjective to our personal preferences.

Personally, I like physically fit petite girls with Mediterranean skin tones and blue or hazel eyes the most attractive. Regardless of how much XSP79 (in my opinion a much better beautifier), or XSP86 I wear is going to make a larger woman attractive to me physically. That certainly is not to denigrate anyone's taste. A very close friend of mine loves bigger women and his wife is wonderful and I totally love her. She is beautiful and her personality is incredible but I'm not attracted to her.

Pheromones amplify those aspects and create an aura but will never change free will. We like what we like and that's okay. Pheromones still create an aura of attraction to help flip switches for others. I'm sure there have been instances in which you found yourself attracted to someone you normally wouldn't. This individual triggered the attraction switches in you, knowingly or unknowingly, but you still have to act on those impulses.

I know it sounds conflicting in itself but maybe think of it this way. Someone you find physically attractive, but they are ego-centric, shallow, not a very nice person, or whatever traits you find unappealing is in your view. You might approach but then discover all those unappealing traits turning your attraction off. Hopefully, if you have enough value in yourself as a person, you will reject the physical attraction. On the other hand, you have someone who is less physically attractive, but they have a genuine smile and zest for life. They are funny and adventurous and they dance like no one is watching. I love that and will choose that person more often than not. The pheromones are the latter example here. They make that smile more genuine, the funny and adventurous more appealing.

Pheromones don't really make people more beautiful in the physical realm, they bring out the internal value of beauty. It ties it all back to defining beauty. How are you defining beauty? What makes a person beautiful to you? If the answer is physically fit petite girls with Mediterranean skin tones and blue or hazel eyes pheromones will not help you at all.

Hoping this helps a little. Oh and this is written in general terms, not about you specifically because I honestly have no idea if any of this applies to your character although I suspect it does not. Your willingness to post in the community seeking advice suggests you are way more value-driven than vanity-driven.

[Muestereate]

DT is a product that helps dispersion. Most of us by dispersion technology and add to our single molecules so they disperse better. When You buy a single you are buying an extremely pure product, lab certified to be the same stuff time after time. If you invest the time for proper testing and decide you like something, you can rest assured if you buy a bottle a year from now its the same stuff. To my knowledge the only thing added is alcohol to adjust for the potency you want to buy. Alcohol alone doesn't disperse the molecules very far but add a little "DT" and it spread as far as a regulars xs blend. Most of us buy some DT as a matter of course.

[Mister Pheromon Mert]

Maybe try adding DT to it

What is DT?

[Mister Pheromon Mert]

I would say you first need to define beautifying effects. Like what are those, because I have no idea? P86 never did that for me so if you are going off of what others say rather than figuring out what an "advanced" molecule does well that's the first main issue. You have to have a general understanding of pheromone blends and the results you get from them. Right now your quite literally taking a single molecule from a blend and saying this doesn't work, but with no conception of what it does or how it works.

Think of it this way: Every shampoo has water, but isolating that water and using it instead of shampoo is not going to give you the desired effects of clean hair. The water acts in harmony with the other components to provide a full experience that leaves your hair clean and lustrous. Water by itself is not going to do that.

Each putative is a single component that provides you with an opportunity to understand the working components of a blend. You'll notice many community members add molecules to already established blends to get some additional oomph out of it. Most of the time when I wear a single it's to test it to see what it does for me. Like I mentioned earlier P86 never really did the beautifying aspect for me. It's more about charm and warmth which some can take as beauty I guess.

From reading your post it seems if you want instant gratification from a putative which by its very definition means supposed or assumption. Single molecules take time, especially from someone without experience in their use, to cultivate results. The very first thing you need to do is define for yourself what exactly are you looking to accomplish; GOALS and then select a product based on that. Once you've acclimated yourself with the types of results you expect from a blend and understand the complexities behind said results if you still want to use singles then great. You can't expect a single molecule to give you the results equal to the complexity of a blend that may take years to develop. I can assure you we don't just throw them together. If molecules worked the way you are expecting them to there would be no need for blends.

My advice is to use a single spray of P86 every other day for a week. Put it on and forget you are wearing it. At the end of the day, reminisce about that days occurrences and the same for days not wearing it. You'll have an idea backdropped against days not wearing it. Right now you are saying a product, you don't seem to have any idea how it works or what it's supposed to do doesn't work.

Just some friendly advice to help get you in the right direction.

Hello Steve,

thank you for taking the time to answer my question.
I define the beautifying effect when I use the
See people more beautiful in my eyes. I am sometimes
very picky because I think very few women are pretty.

If I understand you correctly, I'll test each one
1 spray P86 for a week on the second day. I've also
normal products like Ascend, Taboo, Connection, Bliss
and cohesion. Should I test these products first and
understand and then test P86 solo every other day
or should I test the P86 solo now?

I read that dheas have the beautifying effects
reinforced by andro stations / tenetrions. If I
Pheromone with Dheas wear such as Bliss, Cohesion
and then P86, do the beautifying self-effects come out?

dear Mert

[XSteveO]

I would say you first need to define beautifying effects. Like what are those, because I have no idea? P86 never did that for me so if you are going off of what others say rather than figuring out what an "advanced" molecule does well that's the first main issue. You have to have a general understanding of pheromone blends and the results you get from them. Right now your quite literally taking a single molecule from a blend and saying this doesn't work, but with no conception of what it does or how it works.

Think of it this way: Every shampoo has water, but isolating that water and using it instead of shampoo is not going to give you the desired effects of clean hair. The water acts in harmony with the other components to provide a full experience that leaves your hair clean and lustrous. Water by itself is not going to do that.

Each putative is a single component that provides you with an opportunity to understand the working components of a blend. You'll notice many community members add molecules to already established blends to get some additional oomph out of it. Most of the time when I wear a single it's to test it to see what it does for me. Like I mentioned earlier P86 never really did the beautifying aspect for me. It's more about charm and warmth which some can take as beauty I guess.

From reading your post it seems if you want instant gratification from a putative which by its very definition means supposed or assumption. Single molecules take time, especially from someone without experience in their use, to cultivate results. The very first thing you need to do is define for yourself what exactly are you looking to accomplish; GOALS and then select a product based on that. Once you've acclimated yourself with the types of results you expect from a blend and understand the complexities behind said results if you still want to use singles then great. You can't expect a single molecule to give you the results equal to the complexity of a blend that may take years to develop. I can assure you we don't just throw them together. If molecules worked the way you are expecting them to there would be no need for blends.

My advice is to use a single spray of P86 every other day for a week. Put it on and forget you are wearing it. At the end of the day, reminisce about that days occurrences and the same for days not wearing it. You'll have an idea backdropped against days not wearing it. Right now you are saying a product, you don't seem to have any idea how it works or what it's supposed to do doesn't work.

Just some friendly advice to help get you in the right direction.

[Coconut]

I wore P86 at work for the first time 3 days ago. I work in the perfumery and at first I wore Spicebomb extreme perfume. It lasts a long time. After 5 minutes I was wearing P86 12 mcg / 1 spray on each side of the neck. No self-effects.

Day 2: Strong Cover Scent and 5 minutes after that I wore P86 2 sprays. No beautifying self-effects all day.

Day 3: Today I wore 3 sprays P86 on my neck. I still didn't notice any difference. No self-effects and no reactions from others. I would be grateful if I only see the more beautiful self-effects.

What's next?
I take a 2 day break with P86 and after 3 days I want to go up to 50mcg / 4 sprays.

What am I worried about?
I'm worried that even with higher doses I won't see any beautifying effects like other products such as AV, Nude, TKO, Core, SXD-9, Hypnotica.

Questions
-If I don't notice anything after 4 sprays, what do I do afterwards?
Should I start again from 1 spray or should I continue with 5 sprays?
-If I don't notice any differences, how many sprays should I go up?
-Do you have any more tips on self-effects?

Maybe try adding DT to it

[Mister Pheromon Mert]

I wore P86 at work for the first time 3 days ago. I work in the perfumery and at first I wore Spicebomb extreme perfume. It lasts a long time. After 5 minutes I was wearing P86 12 mcg / 1 spray on each side of the neck. No self-effects.

Day 2: Strong Cover Scent and 5 minutes after that I wore P86 2 sprays. No beautifying self-effects all day.

Day 3: Today I wore 3 sprays P86 on my neck. I still didn't notice any difference. No self-effects and no reactions from others. I would be grateful if I only see the more beautiful self-effects.

What's next?
I take a 2 day break with P86 and after 3 days I want to go up to 50mcg / 4 sprays.

What am I worried about?
I'm worried that even with higher doses I won't see any beautifying effects like other products such as AV, Nude, TKO, Core, SXD-9, Hypnotica.

Questions
-If I don't notice anything after 4 sprays, what do I do afterwards?
Should I start again from 1 spray or should I continue with 5 sprays?
-If I don't notice any differences, how many sprays should I go up?
-Do you have any more tips on self-effects?

[Ildergreier]

I do love P86 and idk if it's just me or if it's a thing or maybe even what i use with it (that i can't recall) but I feel like i feel better about myself when I wear it. I'm married so I'm not looking for attention from others so a lot of the time when I reflect after i wear something I think about self effects. Of course the effects on my husband and if something just stands out from a stranger than ya know but that's not my focus because i don't care about that lol.

Yeah, there is an amplified feeling of security in myself wearing p86.