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    I want to know everything there is to know about this and other Putatives
    "This is the famous, albeit expensive and therefore not always readily available, P86, or at least we are of the opinion it is."

  • #2
    potiongirl I've started using P86 almost daily. Now, I must confess I've never wore it alone, but so far I love the difference it's made to my regular arsenal. It's supposed to be a beautifier, perhaps it smooths out your blends to make them feel more natural as well. Have you ever checked out house of pheromones? That website is one of the main reasons I tried PXS in the first place. There are reviews of many different products from all sorts of companies. I'm very loyal to PXS, but they do have reviews of competitors as well. Good info on putatives there too.
    Spray: XiSt, Evolve, SOB, Ascend, Loveboat, Flirt, Celebrity, Cohesion, Odyssey, Status Booster, Naked Gun, PSE, P86, P96, P75, P130
    Oil: XiSt, Taboo, Evolve, Ascend, Api

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    • potiongirl
      potiongirl commented
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      Thank you!

  • #3
    I've not worn it solo either. Just in mixes. I've been called a beautiful man, a gorgeous man neither of which I am so there must be something to this beautifying affect.
    Last edited by Scottie2Hottie; 06-10-2017, 08:58 AM.
    53/W/M

    Current arsenal:
    Prowl, APi, Ascend +/- cops, XiSt spray, Cohesion spray, Crush spray, Connections spray, Evolve spray, PSE spray, XSP75 12.5 mcg, XSP83 12.5 mcg, XSP86 12.5 mcg, XSP93 12.5 mcg, XSP96 12.5 mcg, XSR32 12.5 mcg, XSR37 12.5 mcg XSR85 12.5mcg, AndrostAnone 2.5 mcg, AdrostEnone 5 mcg, DHEA 10 mcg, DHEAS 10 mcg, Androsterone Sulfate 10 mcg, Alpha Androstenol 10 mcg
    Samples: Celebrity spray, PSE spray, SOB spray, Exotica spray, Desire Me oil

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    • #4
      Originally posted by potiongirl View Post
      I want to know everything there is to know about this and other Putatives
      "This is the famous, albeit expensive and therefore not always readily available, P86, or at least we are of the opinion it is."
      The XS Putative alternatives I have so far are : XSP75 / XSP79 / XSP83 and drum rollll pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee XSP96

      I am gonna start testing XSP79 now so look out for updates

      How do you intend to find out more about the Putative alternatives. I am trying to encourage more reports and testing. Are you gonna buy one every so often to test out and report so others can see our experiences and then start a trend

      Or do you just want to hear from others and their experiences.


      Right now more clients are purchasing the Putative alternatives but I don't believe these clients are members on the forum

      So,as with everything, it has to start somewhere and I am gonna start the ball rolling


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      • #5
        thanks KateD. So, you haven't tried P86? What's your favorite putative? I'm guessing P96 because of the drum roll, but I could be wrong. How long are putatives supposed to last? I've seen that most of the regular blends are 6-8, or even 8-10 on some.
        Spray: XiSt, Evolve, SOB, Ascend, Loveboat, Flirt, Celebrity, Cohesion, Odyssey, Status Booster, Naked Gun, PSE, P86, P96, P75, P130
        Oil: XiSt, Taboo, Evolve, Ascend, Api

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        • #6
          Originally posted by Ragnar Lothbrook View Post
          thanks KateD. So, you haven't tried P86? What's your favorite putative? I'm guessing P96 because of the drum roll, but I could be wrong. How long are putatives supposed to last? I've seen that most of the regular blends are 6-8, or even 8-10 on some.
          According to Michael Harris putatives have a lifespan of about 90 minutes. I added Diffusion Tech to mine and now I get 6-8 hrs.
          53/W/M

          Current arsenal:
          Prowl, APi, Ascend +/- cops, XiSt spray, Cohesion spray, Crush spray, Connections spray, Evolve spray, PSE spray, XSP75 12.5 mcg, XSP83 12.5 mcg, XSP86 12.5 mcg, XSP93 12.5 mcg, XSP96 12.5 mcg, XSR32 12.5 mcg, XSR37 12.5 mcg XSR85 12.5mcg, AndrostAnone 2.5 mcg, AdrostEnone 5 mcg, DHEA 10 mcg, DHEAS 10 mcg, Androsterone Sulfate 10 mcg, Alpha Androstenol 10 mcg
          Samples: Celebrity spray, PSE spray, SOB spray, Exotica spray, Desire Me oil

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          • #7
            Alright Scottie2Hottie I gotta get me some diffusion tech then. What is it? And, how do I get it?
            Spray: XiSt, Evolve, SOB, Ascend, Loveboat, Flirt, Celebrity, Cohesion, Odyssey, Status Booster, Naked Gun, PSE, P86, P96, P75, P130
            Oil: XiSt, Taboo, Evolve, Ascend, Api

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            • #8
              It's the fixative PXS uses in their commercial products. You can find it in the store under Mixing Supplies.

              They recommend 5-8% by volume or ,5-,8 ml/10ml bottle. I use 10%. If you get it, pick up a pack of 3.5 ml pipettes. The Diffusion Tech comes with mini pipettes but they aren't gradded like the 3.5 ml so you never know how much you're getting.

              Shake your bottles vigorously several times a day for one week and you're good to go.
              53/W/M

              Current arsenal:
              Prowl, APi, Ascend +/- cops, XiSt spray, Cohesion spray, Crush spray, Connections spray, Evolve spray, PSE spray, XSP75 12.5 mcg, XSP83 12.5 mcg, XSP86 12.5 mcg, XSP93 12.5 mcg, XSP96 12.5 mcg, XSR32 12.5 mcg, XSR37 12.5 mcg XSR85 12.5mcg, AndrostAnone 2.5 mcg, AdrostEnone 5 mcg, DHEA 10 mcg, DHEAS 10 mcg, Androsterone Sulfate 10 mcg, Alpha Androstenol 10 mcg
              Samples: Celebrity spray, PSE spray, SOB spray, Exotica spray, Desire Me oil

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              • #9
                KateD can you confirm or deny the 90mins?
                Spray: XiSt, Evolve, SOB, Ascend, Loveboat, Flirt, Celebrity, Cohesion, Odyssey, Status Booster, Naked Gun, PSE, P86, P96, P75, P130
                Oil: XiSt, Taboo, Evolve, Ascend, Api

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                • #10
                  Originally posted by Ragnar Lothbrook View Post
                  thanks KateD. So, you haven't tried P86? What's your favorite putative? I'm guessing P96 because of the drum roll, but I could be wrong. How long are putatives supposed to last? I've seen that most of the regular blends are 6-8, or even 8-10 on some.
                  Well what I did was put a list of what I now own. However I only tried the two I keep talking about XSP75 and XSP83. Just like everyone else, I am curious as to what all the XS Putative alternatives do, but rather than wait for someone to tell me. I decided to get some little by little and test it out for myself.

                  In doing so,I hope to also inspire others to experiment with these and post their findings


                  Got to start somewhere

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                  • #11
                    Scottie2Hottie you know how big the putative bottles are. Is there room to add diffusion tech to a full bottle? And, how many drops, or droppers worth go in the P86, for example, bottle? Does it come with directions, or do I gotta do the math?
                    Spray: XiSt, Evolve, SOB, Ascend, Loveboat, Flirt, Celebrity, Cohesion, Odyssey, Status Booster, Naked Gun, PSE, P86, P96, P75, P130
                    Oil: XiSt, Taboo, Evolve, Ascend, Api

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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by Scottie2Hottie View Post

                      According to Michael Harris putatives have a lifespan of about 90 minutes. I added Diffusion Tech to mine and now I get 6-8 hrs.
                      A putative is a single molecule.So if you take a single molecule like enone that can last about 12 hrs and you put a P in front of it, why would it now last for like 90minutes. It sounds like a marketing ploy to make people purchase more because if you think something is gonna last 90minutes then guess what.

                      It doesn't make sense really

                      In all my years of using pheromones and all the threads that I have read and gone through even with AD, I never read that someone had to apply their Putative several times throughout the day

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                      • #13
                        My testing confirms 90 min to 2 hrs. After adding the Diffusion Tech I get hits in the 6-8 hr range.

                        I suppose conversely you could ask why SteveO even offers the Diffusion Tech if it weren't useful.
                        53/W/M

                        Current arsenal:
                        Prowl, APi, Ascend +/- cops, XiSt spray, Cohesion spray, Crush spray, Connections spray, Evolve spray, PSE spray, XSP75 12.5 mcg, XSP83 12.5 mcg, XSP86 12.5 mcg, XSP93 12.5 mcg, XSP96 12.5 mcg, XSR32 12.5 mcg, XSR37 12.5 mcg XSR85 12.5mcg, AndrostAnone 2.5 mcg, AdrostEnone 5 mcg, DHEA 10 mcg, DHEAS 10 mcg, Androsterone Sulfate 10 mcg, Alpha Androstenol 10 mcg
                        Samples: Celebrity spray, PSE spray, SOB spray, Exotica spray, Desire Me oil

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                        • #14
                          Originally posted by Ragnar Lothbrook View Post
                          Scottie2Hottie you know how big the putative bottles are. Is there room to add diffusion tech to a full bottle? And, how many drops, or droppers worth go in the P86, for example, bottle? Does it come with directions, or do I gotta do the math?
                          The 3.5 ml pipettes are graded in .5 ml increments. Just draw up enough liquid to reach the desired level and add it to your 10 ml bottle. And yes there is enough room.

                          No need for math.
                          53/W/M

                          Current arsenal:
                          Prowl, APi, Ascend +/- cops, XiSt spray, Cohesion spray, Crush spray, Connections spray, Evolve spray, PSE spray, XSP75 12.5 mcg, XSP83 12.5 mcg, XSP86 12.5 mcg, XSP93 12.5 mcg, XSP96 12.5 mcg, XSR32 12.5 mcg, XSR37 12.5 mcg XSR85 12.5mcg, AndrostAnone 2.5 mcg, AdrostEnone 5 mcg, DHEA 10 mcg, DHEAS 10 mcg, Androsterone Sulfate 10 mcg, Alpha Androstenol 10 mcg
                          Samples: Celebrity spray, PSE spray, SOB spray, Exotica spray, Desire Me oil

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                          • #15
                            P96 spray in Neroli usually lasts me between 3 - 4 hours. The oil lasts 8+ hours. I got them from AD.

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                            • #16
                              Originally posted by Scottie2Hottie View Post

                              According to Michael Harris putatives have a lifespan of about 90 minutes. I added Diffusion Tech to mine and now I get 6-8 hrs.
                              Hi Scottie : )
                              Nice to see someone using that defusion tech, I was going to ask about it in forums.

                              So, you get 6 to 8 hours of....? Beautifying effect?

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                              • #17
                                Yes that's right
                                53/W/M

                                Current arsenal:
                                Prowl, APi, Ascend +/- cops, XiSt spray, Cohesion spray, Crush spray, Connections spray, Evolve spray, PSE spray, XSP75 12.5 mcg, XSP83 12.5 mcg, XSP86 12.5 mcg, XSP93 12.5 mcg, XSP96 12.5 mcg, XSR32 12.5 mcg, XSR37 12.5 mcg XSR85 12.5mcg, AndrostAnone 2.5 mcg, AdrostEnone 5 mcg, DHEA 10 mcg, DHEAS 10 mcg, Androsterone Sulfate 10 mcg, Alpha Androstenol 10 mcg
                                Samples: Celebrity spray, PSE spray, SOB spray, Exotica spray, Desire Me oil

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                                • #18
                                  Scottie2Hottie I'm putting together another order, including xsp-86 and per your advice the Diffusion Tech and 3.5 ml pipettes. Intent is to use it as add-on or finishing product to go along with main product to be worn. Do you get 86 scented or no? And does it have much smell of its own?

                                  Thanks! btw, have read many of your posts and appreciate insights you've shared.
                                  Play the music, not the instrument.

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                                  • #19
                                    At first i got prefrangranced mones but found it limiting. I like to change up my scents to suit my mood so I go with all unscented pheros now.

                                    P86 to me doesn't have a strong smell but i still recommend a cover scent for everything. Even ones I think have a rather pleasant smell. The reason is twofold. One it helps with projection. They enjoy the smell, they inhale more deeply which, in turn, leads to intaking the pheros more. Besides, women love a man who smells good, pheros or not. I think that a strong phero signature associated with a great fragrance helps imprint on her. To create a powerful connection. This is why i say to avoid mainstream scents. You imprint with a certain fragrance and any Joe Schmoe can bebefit. Pick something that's associated with YOU. Be unique....and I mean this on so many levels.
                                    Last edited by Scottie2Hottie; 07-29-2017, 04:45 PM.
                                    53/W/M

                                    Current arsenal:
                                    Prowl, APi, Ascend +/- cops, XiSt spray, Cohesion spray, Crush spray, Connections spray, Evolve spray, PSE spray, XSP75 12.5 mcg, XSP83 12.5 mcg, XSP86 12.5 mcg, XSP93 12.5 mcg, XSP96 12.5 mcg, XSR32 12.5 mcg, XSR37 12.5 mcg XSR85 12.5mcg, AndrostAnone 2.5 mcg, AdrostEnone 5 mcg, DHEA 10 mcg, DHEAS 10 mcg, Androsterone Sulfate 10 mcg, Alpha Androstenol 10 mcg
                                    Samples: Celebrity spray, PSE spray, SOB spray, Exotica spray, Desire Me oil

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                                    • #20
                                      Thanks Scottie2Hottie - I concur... my first order here I went with prefrag royal oud, which I do like... but realize it's not going to fit in a variety of situations, so feel I'd be better off with my usual essential oils, natural ouds, etc... I can make unique fragrances that way and tailor them more to moods and environments. Thought I'd ask you first tho... 86 will be my first putative. Thanks much for the advice.
                                      Play the music, not the instrument.

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