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Do you rub your Pheromone Oil Products in? Using hand soap could be ruining your results

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  • hombre
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    i dont think wipes are necessary. my solution for a night out clubbing or so is to put some amount of the blend in 2 m"l spray bottle.
    i think its less weird then carrying like 2-5 wipes anyway haha

    other then that, i love the euro droppers but i guess there is a problem of infecting them when i dab from the bottle.

    id say, the best solution is simply a bottle with a sprayer, it works for me with all the oils so far and its common for cosmetics, my beard oil come in atomizer.
    the only thing that need to be figured out is dosage.
    i think that if steveo or some other brave fellow will make a chart that compare dosage for oils from euro droppers, bulbs and different atomizers for same consistency oils, that would be perfect.

    about soaps, its very hard to see how a soap would do any harm.
    besides that, what does it matter what bacteria you have on you're hands? you rub it on other places that do have bacteria.
    the bacteria on you're skin or lack there of, will effect the blend over time but you have nothing to do about it.
    and soaps dont kill bacteria anyway.


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  • pingu
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    Originally posted by SteveO

    We were testing wipes for a while, but very cost inefficient. $5 would be the very minimum if I remember correctly. We sent out a whole bunch as free samples. I am sure we have all the materials. I'll make a few for yah so you can see what you think.
    Definetely something which could be interesting, imagine a pheromone wipe in cool condom looking packet with a funny pic, to leave in your pocket for a night out incase 'things get heated' unexpectedly

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  • XSteveO
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    Originally posted by cryptomones
    Honestly I think someone should create disposable pheromone or scent-based mittens (or even wipes). You just open it, slip your hand in, wipe wherever you need the scent/pheros, turn it inside out and toss it. Before gloves, I always had problems getting too much pheromones concentrated on my fingers. The problem with sprays is sometimes the angle is not what you expect, and you end up spraying where you didn't want or missing entirely. Plus you waste a ton of spray that falls on the floor, etc. I'd pay $5 per 1-time use mittens. Great for travel too, fully sealed in the package, no leak until you open to use it. As with wipes, Windex just started making these. Makes sense, you no longer need paper towels + spray, you just use wipes. A bit more pricey but you definitely gain in time saved + convenience.
    We were testing wipes for a while, but very cost inefficient. $5 would be the very minimum if I remember correctly. We sent out a whole bunch as free samples. I am sure we have all the materials. I'll make a few for yah so you can see what you think.

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  • Muestereate
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    I'm pretty sure my Neno is absorbed through the skin, I'm using dpg oil. people can't be smelling the application but I think it comes back out of my pores in general. My whole body becomes and application point.

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  • Bloodburn
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    It might have been someone else or quotes from someone else regarding AD Chris’ statement on the change from silicone to alcohol. I think I’ve read it but I’m also not sure about this so don’t take my words for it.

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  • Primross
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    Originally posted by Bloodburn

    Actually, I’ve read somewhere that Chris said it himself that alcohol works better for his creation based on his customers’ feedbacks which was the reason for the change from silicone.
    Well for fast hits yes I think it had its place for slow burn. But my point was trying something new such as a hybrid oil/spray serum or something

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  • Bloodburn
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    Originally posted by Primross

    Well for fast hits yes I think it had its place for slow burn. But my point was trying something new such as a hybrid oil/spray serum or something
    The possibilities of new carrier are limited by what fragrance industry uses. We have scented silicone, alcohol, oil, and maybe something else not as good as these. It’s just the matter of vendors mixing alcohol/oil ratio.

    LPMP does 60/40 alcohol/oil which is parfum level.

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  • lafemme
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    Originally posted by Bloodburn

    Actually, I’ve read somewhere that Chris said it himself that alcohol works better for his creation based on his customers’ feedbacks which was the reason for the change from silicone.
    hmm, this is interesting as well.

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  • Primross
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    Originally posted by Bloodburn

    Actually, I’ve read somewhere that Chris said it himself that alcohol works better for his creation based on his customers’ feedbacks which was the reason for the change from silicone.
    Well for fast hits yes I think it had its place for slow burn. But my point was trying something new such as a hybrid oil/spray serum or something

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  • Bloodburn
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    Originally posted by Primross

    The gels and silicone perform well. They could have been stoped due to cost or contract reasons. It did make the sprays more believable
    Actually, I’ve read somewhere that Chris said it himself that alcohol works better for his creation based on his customers’ feedbacks which was the reason for the change from silicone.

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  • Primross
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    Originally posted by Bloodburn
    I don't know but I'd rather stay away from gels. I don't think the medium works well. I had used all LAL's gels and they just seemed like water absorbed into my skin.

    Silicone, if it is that good, Alpha Dream would have continue using it.
    The gels and silicone perform well. They could have been stoped due to cost or contract reasons. It did make the sprays more believable

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  • Bloodburn
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    I don't know but I'd rather stay away from gels. I don't think the medium works well. I had used all LAL's gels and they just seemed like water absorbed into my skin.

    Silicone, if it is that good, Alpha Dream would have continue using it.

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  • lafemme
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    Originally posted by Primross
    I don't think diluting them helps as you would need more product. I would love psx to try new carriers however. Such as gel and silicone. I sometimes mix the oil and the says to make a hybrid. Would love to see these
    great suggestion

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  • lafemme
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    I always rub the oil phero products in, otherwise, I feel that they just sit on top of my skin, and when the clothings goes on, it will get rubbed on, or dare I say wasted; so I'd rather it get rubbed on me instead of in my clothing.

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  • Muestereate
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    I think the word adapt is a good one. I have to adapt all the time in all things in life. There is more than one way to skin a cat and I think I should be familiar with as many as possible so I don't have to reinvent the wheel everytime the weather changes. I like the folding spots a lot too, besides adapting for normal handwashing I like to open up my body and put out a larger scent when I stand up and spread out shoulders back, chest out, head up. It's congruent with it seems to me.

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  • NuTrix
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    I used to apply to the backs of my hands, but I'm required to wear gloves at work often, so I go with top inside of forearm now most of the time, using the tops of my forearms to rub into crooks of elbows too. I still use inside of wrists on occasion when not going to work. When I apply to neck or between "the girls", I use the back of my wrist to rub oils in or smoosh the girls together (in that case, lol).
    I don't like antibacterial soaps, but it's all my company uses, so you adapt your app as needed ^_~

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  • Muestereate
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    Never gave it a thought to use gloves. I guess, if I was working in the lab it would be wise. I do think someone came out with a pheromone wipe. not Gloves though. Hayley sends Condoms. I bet she pokes a hole in them with a hypodermic and injects a pheromone and thinks she doing us a favor.

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  • Primross
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    I don't think diluting them helps as you would need more product. I would love psx to try new carriers however. Such as gel and silicone. I sometimes mix the oil and the says to make a hybrid. Would love to see these

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  • cryptomones
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    I use nitrile gloves that I buy in bulk for $4/100 pairs. Nowadays I also use them to wash dishes, cleaning, etc. so convenient to not have to constantly wash your hands. There's another solution also, there are 'finger gloves' which slip onto a single finger. If I'm applying to smaller areas like behind my ear or chin, etc. and don't want to spread it around too much, I use these. They're made of either nitrile or latex. They look like tiny thin condoms and roll on just the same way.

    One other thing I do, which I'm not sure if this is good or not - I mix a bit of jojoba oil in with the drops as I'm applying them, to dilute the mixture, allowing me to spread it on more parts of my body. For instance, I take a few drops jojoba or vitamin E oil, place into the glove, then drop some pheromones, and then mix in the palm of my hand (with a glove on my other hand). Then I just run wherever I need to all over. I find it works quite well. For sprays, I just spray on my skin and still use the gloves to spread around if need be.

    XSteveO - Honestly I think someone should create disposable pheromone or scent-based mittens (or even wipes). You just open it, slip your hand in, wipe wherever you need the scent/pheros, turn it inside out and toss it. Before gloves, I always had problems getting too much pheromones concentrated on my fingers. The problem with sprays is sometimes the angle is not what you expect, and you end up spraying where you didn't want or missing entirely. Plus you waste a ton of spray that falls on the floor, etc. I'd pay $5 per 1-time use mittens. Great for travel too, fully sealed in the package, no leak until you open to use it. As with wipes, Windex just started making these. Makes sense, you no longer need paper towels + spray, you just use wipes. A bit more pricey but you definitely gain in time saved + convenience.

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  • Conjurator
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    Hahahaha! Probably burns like hell.

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