Cohesion + MEO-EST, A sophisticated, desired man. The complete package.

[NuTrix]

[Devin1Neil]

True pheromones has it for sale in a single. They have MEO-none and MEO-nol. I've been investigating MEO for a couple few months now and just made an order for the MEO-nol that should be arriving next week...traced references to people using both but found also some users didn't know for sure. Been an interesting ride...
http://www.truepheromones.com/single-molecules/

I tried out true love solo, i'm wondering if this might be a bit of a friend-zone creator or more of a social, oh my god I think I turned into a woman. Just playful and blushy and happy, effects on both women and men, although that may of just been me.

i think you are mistaken my friend
Ingredients

TRUELoveTM contains the perfect blend of Methoxyestratetraenone, Androstenol (alpha & beta), Androstadienone & Estratetraenol

See the MEO-EST and EST make sense for this. I've heard that EST works as a temper (or killer) of any -none or -nol products. And i'm wondering how the MEO-EST comes in in terms of which gender it brings off. Either way it was funnnnnnnnnnnn. This better not bring out anything in me

[Suaviter in modo]

True Love is announced as being meo-est based.

[NuTrix]

Well dang. Where can I get straight MEO to test

True pheromones has it for sale in a single. They have MEO-none and MEO-nol. I've been investigating MEO for a couple few months now and just made an order for the MEO-nol that should be arriving next week...traced references to people using both but found also some users didn't know for sure. Been an interesting ride...
http://www.truepheromones.com/single-molecules/

[hombre]

maybe from androtics or try to ask from true love.

[Devin1Neil]

i think you are mistaken my friend
Ingredients

TRUELoveTM contains the perfect blend of Methoxyestratetraenone, Androstenol (alpha & beta), Androstadienone & Estratetraenol

Well dang. Where can I get straight MEO to test

[hombre]

i think you are mistaken my friend
Ingredients

TRUELoveTM contains the perfect blend of Methoxyestratetraenone, Androstenol (alpha & beta), Androstadienone & Estratetraenol

[NuTrix]

[Devin1Neil]

No, I KNOW it's effective personally, lol, and so do many others. The debate has always surrounded safety...

I'm on about 6 sprays of P86 right now after my shift to try and sleep and my head is spinning like a mofo, please excuse the induced dyslexia.edit:

of fucking course this is my 100th post.

[NuTrix]

Wait you don't think it has effecacy as a phero, what are you basing that conclusion on? I'm genuinely curious.

Thank you!
Yes, I'm aware there's a debate about MEO, though not about it's efficacy. I would be curious to try it from a reputable vendor.

No, I KNOW it's effective personally, lol, and so do many others. The debate has always surrounded safety...

[Devin1Neil]

I've read those things as well about MEO. After looking up studies and seeing the details of how they were executed (application, dose, time period of study, etc) I have to agree with you about cancer risk. On the serface, when someone reads an article title claiming cancer associantion, it's off putting, but the devil is in the details. If you don't understand what a study should look like or how to compare process, on the surface it can potentially "prove" anything. That's what I keep running into (and reading through the papers with enough of those details is draining, and sometimes annoying when you see how the study was set up). On the surface, when I first pursued this superficially, I thought correlation myself. But the closer I looked at the studies, the less convinced I became, at least for use as a pheromone.
I don't wonder that a lot of what I'm finding, at least in the phero world, was conflated and then disseminated to unduely give MEO a bad wrap to freak buyers away from some competing products...

Wait you don't think it has effecacy as a phero, what are you basing that conclusion on? I'm genuinely curious.

[Devin1Neil]

Are you using True Love or straight MEO-EST?

True love, but it's the only active ingredient..

[Devin1Neil]

I don't recall anyone ever differentiating. I didn't know about the nol until 2 days ago. So far as I can tell, the MEO references in forums have been for none. Now I'm looking for what the difference is. Could be like you said, none is the more alpha, masculine isomer? Be darned if I know... Yet. The search continues...

Question is sourcing the -nol

[nephil]

Are you using True Love or straight MEO-EST?

[NuTrix]

-nol seems to show up in both women and men, -none seems to be mostly correlated with male only in most phero's. Correct me if i'm wrong. XSteveO

I don't recall anyone ever differentiating. I didn't know about the nol until 2 days ago. So far as I can tell, the MEO references in forums have been for none. Now I'm looking for what the difference is. Could be like you said, none is the more alpha, masculine isomer? Be darned if I know... Yet. The search continues...

[Devin1Neil]

-nol seems to show up in both women and men, -none seems to be mostly correlated with male only in most phero's. Correct me if i'm wrong. XSteveO

[Devin1Neil]

Devin1Neil are you using their nol or none? And what made you chose the one you did over the other?

I am using their -none. I had no idea they had a nol. The -none chemical I would assume would be better on guys and the -nol on women? I def need to research this more.

Do you know if there's any correlation with -none vs -nol products?

[NuTrix]

Devin1Neil are you using their nol or none? And what made you chose the one you did over the other?

[NuTrix]

Methoxyestratetraenone as an oral supplement, and in the human body are found to be associated with area's around breast cancer in women, not necessarily causing it, and at doses much higher then the mcg found in pheromones (IMHO). I stick to spraying it on my shirt, even though the risk (again IMHO) of a minuscule amount absorbing through the skin is probably very slight. Totally understand why SteveO likes to stay away from oxytocin (preterm labor) and MEO (cancer risk). I personally love the stuff as an additive to other mixes, today in a 2:1 ratio (meo/cohesion) produced great social and status effects. Very respected, but easygoing type thing...

I've read those things as well about MEO. After looking up studies and seeing the details of how they were executed (application, dose, time period of study, etc) I have to agree with you about cancer risk. On the serface, when someone reads an article title claiming cancer associantion, it's off putting, but the devil is in the details. If you don't understand what a study should look like or how to compare process, on the surface it can potentially "prove" anything. That's what I keep running into (and reading through the papers with enough of those details is draining, and sometimes annoying when you see how the study was set up). On the surface, when I first pursued this superficially, I thought correlation myself. But the closer I looked at the studies, the less convinced I became, at least for use as a pheromone.
I don't wonder that a lot of what I'm finding, at least in the phero world, was conflated and then disseminated to unduely give MEO a bad wrap to freak buyers away from some competing products...

[Devin1Neil]

Thank you!
Yes, I'm aware there's a debate about MEO, though not about it's efficacy. I would be curious to try it from a reputable vendor.

Methoxyestratetraenone as an oral supplement, and in the human body are found to be associated with area's around breast cancer in women, not necessarily causing it, and at doses much higher then the mcg found in pheromones (IMHO). I stick to spraying it on my shirt, even though the risk (again IMHO) of a minuscule amount absorbing through the skin is probably very slight. Totally understand why SteveO likes to stay away from oxytocin (preterm labor) and MEO (cancer risk). I personally love the stuff as an additive to other mixes, today in a 2:1 ratio (meo/cohesion) produced great social and status effects. Very respected, but easygoing type thing...